I have a Wouxun kg1000g plus and can hear conversasions on the repeater channels but get no response for a mic check

[WSGI647]

read the manual, Googled it, AI couldn't help. Any ideas?

[OffRoaderX]

yes, i have an idea: You're doing it wrong.

Are you on the correct repeater-channel, and did you add the necessary tone to access that specific repeater? (my guess is two no's..)

[nokones]

10 minutes ago, WSGI647 said:

read the manual, Googled it, AI couldn't help. Any ideas?

Has AI ever helped in these situations?

[WSGI647]

I loathe it and loathe me for using it lol

[OffRoaderX]

11 minutes ago, nokones said:

Has AI ever helped in these situations?

THIS A.I. would! -> A.I. NotARubicon

[WSFX665]

Oh, I am monitoring this one

[WRYZ926]

Sounds like you are either trying to use a simplex channel and/or you don't have the transmit tone set correctly on your radio.

Make sure you are using one of the repeater channels that corresponds to the repeater you are trying to reach. Then make sure you have the correct tones set to match the repeater's tones.

You can leave the RX tone turned off on the radio and you will still hear the repeater. But if the repeater is using tones then you must have the correct transmit tone set on your radio.

[WSFX665]

Did you get this issue resolved?

[WSGI647]

I did not. I've done absolutely everything suggested on here, google, everything. What stumps me is that while on say repeater channel 15 on the radio, not connected to a repeater, mic checks are heard on simplex channel 15 which makes no sense considering the 5mhz offset that the radio is supposed to have automatically set on the repeater channels. I should be transmitting on 467 to be heard by the repeater that I'm not connected to so my other radio on simplex 15 (462), shouldn't be hearing me.

[WSGI647]

BTW, I bought this thanks to you, NotARubicon @OffRoaderX . Followed your mediocre instructions perfectly. I'm jk, I love your channel. I always get a laugh with every video. I really have followed all instructions with this. I'm on the repeater channel but being heard on the corresponding simplex channel and I'm not even connected to the repeater. This shouldn't be happening. I should be tx on 467 if I'm on repeater channel 15 (23). If I was connected to the repeater I would be heard on simplex 15, but I'm not connected to it. My spare radio shouldn't be able to hear me.

I have the correct CTCSS too.

[WRYZ926]

1 hour ago, WSGI647 said:

I did not. I've done absolutely everything suggested on here, google, everything. What stumps me is that while on say repeater channel 15 on the radio, not connected to a repeater, mic checks are heard on simplex channel 15 which makes no sense considering the 5mhz offset that the radio is supposed to have automatically set on the repeater channels. I should be transmitting on 467 to be heard by the repeater that I'm not connected to so my other radio on simplex 15 (462), shouldn't be hearing me.

That is totally normal since the output frequency of the repeater is the same as the corresponding simplex channel. The repeater output frequency for the repeater is 462.550 and the simplex channel 15 is also 462.550. 

When using a repeater, you transmit to the repeater on 467.550 and you receive the repeater's transmission on 462.550. And YES you will hear a repeater's transmission on the corresponding simplex channel. Having tones set on your radio does not keep other radios without tones from hearing your transmission.

All the receive tones on your radio do is keep you from hearing transmissions from other radios that are not using tones.

If you are hearing yourself on simplex with a different radio then it sounds like you still don't have the tones set correctly on your KG-1000G when you transmit on the repeater channel. Turn off your receive tones on the KG-1000G and also double check your transmit tones.

[WSGI647]

transmitting to a repeater with a radio on repeater channel 15 (channel 23) would mean off-setting 5mHz to 467 though, right? If I'm supposedly transmitting on 467, how am I hearing it on 462? The only way I could is if I was connected to the repeater, and I am not. This is why I am confused. Also, because I am stupid. Thank you for your help either way.

[WSAA254]

21 minutes ago, WSGI647 said:

transmitting to a repeater with a radio on repeater channel 15 (channel 23) would mean off-setting 5mHz to 467 though, right? If I'm supposedly transmitting on 467, how am I hearing it on 462? The only way I could is if I was connected to the repeater, and I am not. This is why I am confused. Also, because I am stupid. Thank you for your help either way.

It may be of help to use the programming software or chirp.  It seems to be easier to visualize what is going on.  I use chirp, and its worked out well.   I am also using a wouxun kg1000 plus, I just add another channel for a specific repeater, instead of trying to change the built in channels.  Below is an example of the chirp added channels.  Hope this helps.  The freq on the left are the receive freq, the +5 on the right shows the extra 5 meg to hit the repeater ( this is what you are transmitting)…   good luck

Edited Thursday at 01:53 AM by WSAA254
additional info

[OffRoaderX]

20 minutes ago, WSGI647 said:

The only way I could is if I was connected to the repeater, and I am not. This is why I am confused

It sounds like you are connecting to a repeater. If not, then, you're doing it wrong.

[WRYZ926]

1 hour ago, WSGI647 said:

transmitting to a repeater with a radio on repeater channel 15 (channel 23) would mean off-setting 5mHz to 467 though, right? If I'm supposedly transmitting on 467, how am I hearing it on 462? The only way I could is if I was connected to the repeater, and I am not. This is why I am confused. Also, because I am stupid. Thank you for your help either way.

If you are transmitting on 467 and hearing on 462 then you are getting into the repeater. Double check the tones. I would also try turning your radio's RX tone off.

[WSGI647]

The only repeater I'm in proximity to requires tones and I have tried it without any tones at all and still heard the transmission on simplex even though I transmitted on a repeater channel. How could I be transmitting to the simplex channel via repeater without tones? The only thing that makes sense here is the repeater channel doesn't truly offset 5mHz by default.

[WSGI647]

2 hours ago, OffRoaderX said:

If not, then, you're doing it wrong.

This is the cause of much "confuculation" in my life

[OffRoaderX]

29 minutes ago, WSGI647 said:

How could I be transmitting to the simplex channel via repeater without tones? The only thing that makes sense here is the repeater channel doesn't truly offset 5mHz by default

There are literally only two possibilities:
A: You have the only KG-1000G Plus ever, in the history of Wouxun to somehow, inexplicably do this thing that no other Wouxun and probably no other radio from any brand, has ever done in the past 

OR

3: You are very, very confused, and, you are doing it wrong.

At this point i would suggest doing a full factory-reset to undo whatever atrocities you have inflicted upon that radio, find a different repeater, and start over.

[WSGI647]

well, as stated previously, I am an idiot so you're right, probably possibility #D. They say GMRS is ham for dummies, well maybe I should just stick with a string and two paper cups lol. Atleast simplex is... well, simple enough. I wont waste any more time here, I admit defeat but thank you all so much for your time. Especially from famous movie stars like @OffRoaderX

[SteveShannon]

8 hours ago, WSGI647 said:

The only repeater I'm in proximity to requires tones and I have tried it without any tones at all and still heard the transmission on simplex even though I transmitted on a repeater channel. How could I be transmitting to the simplex channel via repeater without tones? The only thing that makes sense here is the repeater channel doesn't truly offset 5mHz by default.

 

7 hours ago, WSGI647 said:

well, as stated previously, I am an idiot so you're right, probably possibility #D. They say GMRS is ham for dummies, well maybe I should just stick with a string and two paper cups lol. Atleast simplex is... well, simple enough. I wont waste any more time here, I admit defeat but thank you all so much for your time. Especially from famous movie stars like @OffRoaderX

Hi Matt,

Before you give up, there are a couple things you can do so we can see what’s happening and possibly understand why. 
1. Post a copy of your configuration file so we can look at it. 

2. Video record and post the display of your radio while it’s behaving like you say. That will show us whether the radio is transmitting with an offset or possibly other unexpected behavior. I was transmitting on A and receiving on the B channel once without knowing it and I didn’t immediately understand what I was doing. 

People here really do want to help but as you have explained it the logic is puzzling. That doesn’t make you an idiot. I help a blind-deaf friend who lives in California. I help him program his ham radios. (He’s not totally deaf; he has hearing aids that work with his ham radios.)  Sometimes we have to use FaceTime to figure out what the screen is showing him. Touchscreens are a real special level of hell when they’re on a different screen than he expects. 
In any event, happy new year!
Steve
 

[WSGI647]

6 hours ago, SteveShannon said:

People here really do want to help
 

I am so thankful for this, I can't even tell you. I don't want to give up, but also don't want to annoy others with something most likely trivial. Thank you so much, @SteveShannon

[WSGI647]

apparently the video was corrupt? Here is my Samsung file share link, it should work.

https://quickshare.samsungcloud.com/8etPwnG3tqYa

[WSGI647]

I am not connected to a repeater. I can record another video showing that I have CTCSS tones off just to figure out why im tx on 462 instead of 467mHz. While my initial problem was connecting to a repeater, I also have the previously stated issue. I'm sorry if I explain things poorly, btw.

[SteveShannon]

7 minutes ago, WSGI647 said:

I am so thankful for this, I can't even tell you. I don't want to give up, but also don't want to annoy others with something most likely trivial. Thank you so much, @SteveShannon

You might be going through the repeater or you’re really close to a high powered transmitter with a very inexpensive receiver that doesn’t have great filtering or selectivity. Your Baofeng might just be breaking squelch because it is so close, similar to desensing. Give the Baofeng to someone to take it a couple houses away and see if it still happens. 
Bottom line I think that’s just because it’s so close, not that your Wouxun is transmitting on the same frequency. But I could easily be mistaken. 
As a second test, try talking into the Wouxun while a friend listens on the Baofeng. 
Try listening with the Baofeng set to receive 467.xxx. 

[SteveShannon]

7 minutes ago, WSGI647 said:

I'm sorry if I explain things poorly, btw.

Sometimes it’s difficult. No problem. 

[WSGI647]

5 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

Try listening with the Baofeng set to receive 467.xxx. 

So I did this and the signal was much stronger on the Baofeng which lends credence to what you suggested!

 

8 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

You might be going through the repeater or you’re really close to a high powered transmitter with a very inexpensive receiver that doesn’t have great filtering or selectivity.

apparently so! I am absolutely amazed right now. I have been on the edge of sanity over this and @SteveShannon, you are an absolute legend. I knew this issue had to be trivial, but I only first heard of GMRS a few days before Christmas so I have so much to learn. I can't thank you enough for you sharing the knowledge!