WSHN958 Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 GMRS-FRS20Chart.pdf47 CFR Part 95 Subpart E (up to date as of 3-18-2025)2.pdf47 CFR 95.317 (up to date as of 3-18-2025).pdf I'm Posting Chapter 47 rules and regulations for new GMRS Radio users. Plus FRN and GMRS Freq list. Quote
Socalgmrs Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 Why? New gmrs users literally just told the fcc they have read and totally understand all the rules for gmrs. It makes you confirm this BEFORE you pay your fee. Any one that didn’t read the rules when they said they did committed fraud. This is the ultimate in spoof feeding. If some one want to know the rules THEY need to learn to find it them selves. Geesh Davichko5650 and UncleYoda 2 Quote
SteveShannon Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 6 hours ago, WSHN958 said: GMRS-FRS20Chart.pdf 142.06 kB · 2 downloads 47 CFR Part 95 Subpart E (up to date as of 3-18-2025)2.pdf 110.22 kB · 0 downloads 47 CFR 95.317 (up to date as of 3-18-2025).pdf 27.72 kB · 0 downloads I'm Posting Chapter 47 rules and regulations for new GMRS Radio users. Plus FRN and GMRS Freq list. I recommend that you add @Socalgmrs to your “ignore list”. Life gets better. Personally I prefer to have a link to the CFR page on the internet rather than capturing a point in time with PDFs: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-D/part-95 WRNU354, gortex2, wayoverthere and 3 others 5 1 Quote
WRTC928 Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 6 hours ago, WRUE951 said: That 47 is a good number 47 was my radio call sign in my last law enforcement job. I have a fondness for it. SteveShannon and WRUE951 2 Quote
Hoppyjr Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 Interesting that a new guy joins and immediately feels the need to give us the rules. Davichko5650 1 Quote
nokones Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 It's Title 47, not Chapter 47. In otherwords, the GMRS Rules & Regulations fall under Code of Federal Regulations, Title 47, Chapter I, Subchapter D, Part 95, Subpart E. Quote
SteveShannon Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 3 hours ago, Hoppyjr said: Interesting that a new guy joins and immediately feels the need to give us the rules. It was a nice thing for him to do. He didn’t lecture anyone; he just tried to make it easier for us. You’ve been grumbling about things lately. Are you becoming infected with the socalgmrs bug? WRUU653, WRNU354 and Davichko5650 1 1 1 Quote
GrouserPad Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 This is a double post but I’ll add it here because it seems more relevant: what’s the rules defining the difference between a fixed station and a base station per 95.1767? Base is legal up to 50 watts yet a fixed station only to 15watts. What makes a station a “fixed” station. Quote
WRUU653 Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 “Fixed station. A station at a fixed location that directly communicates with other fixed stations only.” Here is an entire thread on the subject. Quote
Hoppyjr Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 It was a nice thing for him to do. He didn’t lecture anyone; he just tried to make it easier for us. You’ve been grumbling about things lately. Are you becoming infected with the socalgmrs bug? Nope, just expressing my opinion when feel it necessary. Quote
WRHS218 Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 19 hours ago, WRTC928 said: 47 was my radio call sign in my last law enforcement job. That was mine as well! WRUE951 1 Quote
LeoG Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 Here's a question. I know that when you set up a repeater for family use only the repeater doesn't need to self ID. And if it's a public repeater with many users it does need to self ID. But what if I have a family repeater and invite someone to use it, basically only to converse with me since we are friends and he won't really be talking to any of my other family members. Since I'm the repeater owner and I ID myself at the required times as well as my friend using his own ID. Does that mean the repeater needs to self ID? Quote
WRUE951 Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 6 minutes ago, LeoG said: Here's a question. I know that when you set up a repeater for family use only the repeater doesn't need to self ID. And if it's a public repeater with many users it does need to self ID. But what if I have a family repeater and invite someone to use it, basically only to converse with me since we are friends and he won't really be talking to any of my other family members. Since I'm the repeater owner and I ID myself at the required times as well as my friend using his own ID. Does that mean the repeater needs to self ID? anyone that transmits over the repeater has to at the required intervals. Family members are still suppose to but allowed to share your ID. The way I understand, if only family members use the repeater and you use auto CW at required intervals, no need to speak ID. Quote
SteveShannon Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 10 minutes ago, LeoG said: Here's a question. I know that when you set up a repeater for family use only the repeater doesn't need to self ID. And if it's a public repeater with many users it does need to self ID. But what if I have a family repeater and invite someone to use it, basically only to converse with me since we are friends and he won't really be talking to any of my other family members. Since I'm the repeater owner and I ID myself at the required times as well as my friend using his own ID. Does that mean the repeater needs to self ID? The repeater must be IDed if anyone other than someone using the operator’s ID uses it. The mechanism isn’t stipulated. You as the repeater operator can do it manually. The regulation doesn’t require the repeater to automatically ID in any case. Quote
LeoG Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 So since I'm IDing, no CW is required. Don't have plans on stranger to stranger use of the repeater. Quote
SteveShannon Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 2 minutes ago, LeoG said: So since I'm IDing, no CW is required. Don't have plans on stranger to stranger use of the repeater. CW is never required. It’s just an option. As long as people can understand that you’re IDing yourself and the repeater you should be fine. WRUE951 1 Quote
LeoG Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 Well I'm always saying the LRG repeater, so it should be understood. Quote
WSHN958 Posted 22 hours ago Author Report Posted 22 hours ago On 4/10/2025 at 4:34 PM, Hoppyjr said: Interesting that a new guy joins and immediately feels the need to give us the rules. I;ve been a two way radio dealer for 13 years with ICOM Rado's. I'm not new to use of radios or FCC Rules. Too! I've worked as a EMT-P for 32 years and have plenty of experience operating TWO WAY RADIO's. I posted these rule and regulations for new users. Even reading and signing the FCC form before paying, It's always good to go back and reference these rules rather a newbie or a long time radio user. Socalgmrs, WRUU653 and SteveShannon 2 1 Quote
Socalgmrs Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 51 minutes ago, WSHN958 said: I;ve been a two way radio dealer for 13 years with ICOM Rado's. I'm not new to use of radios or FCC Rules. Too! I've worked as a EMT-P for 32 years and have plenty of experience operating TWO WAY RADIO's. I posted these rule and regulations for new users. Even reading and signing the FCC form before paying, It's always good to go back and reference these rules rather a newbie or a long time radio user. Wow so many years in radios. I’ve got you beat however, if we are measuring. I’ve been using radios for over 40years. But 32? That makes you the expert baby sitter we all wished we had. Please tell us more about what we didn’t know we needed to re learn. Since you have been into radios that long have you also had a drivers license for that long? I’d love for you to post v.c for each state so we can all be reminded of the driving laws. Please be like the gobermint and tell us what we need to be reminded of. IF you had hung around and read some posts first, you would know that fcc rules are talked about endlessly here. People know how to find information all by them selves like big boys and girls. Many people here even know how to use the interweb. And the ones that don’t get schooled. Quote
LeoG Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago The eff sea seas doesn't enforce most of them most of the time so they are essentially non existent. Quote
WRUE951 Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Socalgmrs said: Wow so many years in radios. I’ve got you beat however, if we are measuring. I’ve been using radios for over 40years. But 32? That makes you the expert baby sitter we all wished we had. Please tell us more about what we didn’t know we needed to re learn. Since you have been into radios that long have you also had a drivers license for that long? I’d love for you to post v.c for each state so we can all be reminded of the driving laws. Please be like the gobermint and tell us what we need to be reminded of. IF you had hung around and read some posts first, you would know that fcc rules are talked about endlessly here. People know how to find information all by them selves like big boys and girls. Many people here even know how to use the interweb. And the ones that don’t get schooled. Uhhhhh????? WRUU653 1 Quote
AdmiralCochrane Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago 6 hours ago, WRUE951 said: Uhhhhh????? Regular. Learn to ignore it or use the forum function. SteveShannon 1 Quote
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