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No offset needed. The offset is because the receive frequency is different than the send and you will just be receiving on those frequencies. Also tones aren’t needed for just listening. On your GMRS channels the tones on TX are to open the repeater and the Tones on RX are to eliminate everything but that repeater to hear on that frequency. For scanning things like fire channels you can leave the tones off, in fact you can leave the receive tones off on your GMRS repeater programming and hear all that’s on those channels. Hope I explained that okay.

Welcome @Jbailey and @Millimar and any other new members I missed! There are many helpful people here, and there are no stupid questions.

I don't have this radio to check the numbers (if you do) you can check the FCC ID Search and see if it did in fact get certified and for what. It should be located on the radio under where the battery sits. That said if you read through the Midland info I posted above one of their defenses was that some radios had been certified but that didn't seem to matter to the FCC. I guess things slip past the FCC sometimes.

If a radio can’t be certified part 95 that has voice scrambling I don’t see how you can conclude it’s okay to use it. I would be interested in your “accounts read and watched” supporting this idea. Perhaps something has changed I am unaware of? Here’s what I found. FCC definition. Voice obscuring feature. A feature incorporated into a Personal Radio Service telephony transmitter that alters the sound of the user's voice in such a way that the communications are intended to be understandable only to individuals using a similar unit that reverses the process on the receiving end, so that the voice again becomes intelligible. FCC notes on the changes cited by @Sshannon c) Voice obscuring radios. Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall manufacture, or import, sell or offer for sale any radio that incorporates one or more voice scrambling or other obscuring features where such radio is intended for use in any of the Personal Radio Services that provide for voice (telephony) communications on shared channels (see § 95.359) regardless of whether the Commission has previously certified that radio. and finally Midland was fined for just such a thing back in 2009. Here is a few quotes from that report. “the Commission staff publicly interpreted its rules to advise that voice scrambling constitutes coded messaging and, therefore, is not allowed for GMRS devices.” ”Section 95.183(a)(4) of the Rules prohibits GMRS operators from transmitting coded messages and messages with hidden meanings” Midlands argument that they used voice inversion was not successful. from all I have found it would seem the FCC does not condone this. That’s my interpretation anyway

You may find this tool helpful but nothing beats trying it out with your radios. If you can safely get up on the roof with your HT you may get an idea of how much an antenna higher up will make. A mobile/base with a good antenna should certainly help some. It sounds like you are already beating the odds so that's cool.

@Redrocket I’ve been using the Comet SBB-5NMO with my IC-2730A and I’m quite happy with it. Their CA-2X4SR may work better with your taller trailer.

Some bubble packs come with preset tones on them. You could try scanning for the tones. @wrci350 is right, it would help to know what radios we are talking about.

Looks like a 9 dbi gain antenna. I’m guessing that doesn’t hurt the PFM (pure fn magic). I like my Comet mobile antenna.

These appear to be FRS radios and as such should not be able to use a repeater per FCC. That said they do seem to be programmable via Chirp and according to the inter webs are the same as a Baofeng BF888 and use the same Chirp programming. A little research and there seems to be some question as to part acceptance??? 16 channels only, so less than a standard bubble pack yet you can program them, so more than your standard bubble pack. If you’re to follow the rules I can certainly see an issue using these with a repeater even if they do such a thing. This person that recommended this setup, did they sell the radios and repeater to you?

Oh yeah, you got the bug. No known cure at this point. I personally don’t think it’s a problem until you can’t remember what you have and even then I may change my opinion on that. You’d think but as a collector myself I’m skeptical

I don’t understand how you came to the conclusion that the printed words from the FCC is one person’s statement.?? Or are you referring to the video posted? Which did have FCC representatives in it but wasn’t from the FCC website. link to FCC, see operations. “You cannot directly interconnect a GMRS station with the telephone network or any other network for the purpose of carrying GMRS communications, but these networks can be used for remote control of repeater stations.”

I would agree that it does.

It’s in the third paragraph under operations here.

I agree with @WRQC527 and @WRYZ926. Your SWR is nothing to worry about. I would add that your antenna is a good antenna and do not try to tune it. They come very well tuned out of the box and any tuning would likely ruin it.

If you have both licenses it’s easy enough to accidentally use the wrong call sign. I also have made this mistake before especially talking with a friend who has both licenses also and both a ham repeater and a GMRS repeater in between us. This usually is followed by razing the other for the faux pas.

Definition of a fixed station. Fixed station. A station at a fixed location that directly communicates with other fixed stations only A base station is not a fixed station, neither is your HT. Fixed stations only communicate with other fixed stations. Like a point to point communication. Maybe a com from a gate or something like that.

The repeaters should have different tones set for access if they are near each other. You can program more repeaters in your radio. Repeater channels typically are from 23 to 30, Program the next eight frequencies the same but with different tones as needed and the next eight and so on if you need more.

I resemble that statement

When the FCC comes...

Welcome to the forum Mike - @WSAA652

This does appear to be the case. I had yet to see it done on GMRS. TRON575BOCA. I stand corrected. Thanks Steve.

Forgive me if I’m telling you anything you know already. Your repeater channels will already have an offset of +5 so no need to set memory to 467.***,. The second issue I see is if they told you to transmit on 467.650 that would be channel 27 or possibly 35 but if you transmit on 467.650 then you are going to receive on 462.650 not 462.575. 462.575 receiving would be a transmit of 467.575. If I recall correctly the UV9G has the first eight repeaters already set so repeater channel for 462.650 = channel 27 and 462.575 = channel 24. I hope that helps.

@WSAN654 check out Deer Meadows repeater. It looks like you may reach it and it is an open repeater. Owner says if you are licensed and use your call sign you are good to go, no request required.

I typed in the area and it showed right up.

Welcome to the forum @harsgrms