Do roger beeps confuse repeaters?

[nokones]

1 minute ago, adnjacob said:

Dear sir, please forgive me for not immediately having full faith and confidence in a random claim from a random internet person. Respectfully submitted.

No problem, it's your faith and you can have all the faith you want or not want in this matter. It's a freedom of choice.

[kapoijerj334]

2 hours ago, marcspaz said:

 

Someone actually turned my transmitter off on one of my repeaters last year. They were using DTMF 1111 as a quick burst preamble and that was the default combination for the disable command on the repeater. I also had someone have a DTMF code setup as a roger beep and coincidentally happened to be the same combination I made up to stun the repeater. I had to drive to the repeater site to reset it on the panel. 

I admit I'm so ignorant and new at radios, I have no idea what DTMF 1111 or quick burst means. But I suspect that neither of these things would be default settings, or that anyone would set their radio up to do this by simply going to the roger beep setting and selecting "on", is that correct? 

In other words, telling people to turn off their roger beep wouldn't prevent someone doing the above, right?

[kapoijerj334]

4 hours ago, OffRoaderX said:

More lies perpetrated by the Sad-H.A.M. cartels.

This claim appears prima facie to be more believable than the claim that roger beeps confuse repeaters.

[kapoijerj334]

3 minutes ago, nokones said:

No problem, it's your faith and you can have all the faith you want or not want in this matter. It's a freedom of choice.

Thank you again, sir, for giving me permission to exercise such freedom. I hadn't thought I would meet such a generous random individual so quickly on a random internet forum. I am forever in your debt.

[SteveShannon]

8 minutes ago, adnjacob said:

Dear sir, please forgive me for not immediately having full faith and confidence in a random claim from a random internet person. Respectfully submitted.

Why then would you pose the question in a forum, which by definition is populated by random internet people?

[kapoijerj334]

1 minute ago, Sshannon said:

Why then would you pose the question in a forum, which by definition is populated by random internet people?

Nokones posted an amusing reply, to which I thought it would be humorous to respond in kind. I think you are reading things too seriously...

[kapoijerj334]

12 minutes ago, Sshannon said:

Why then would you pose the question in a forum, which by definition is populated by random internet people?

By the way, are you implying that you have full faith and confidence in all random claims on every internet forum you participate in?

Or do you instead use your reasoning and discussing abilities to separate believable from not so believable?

[nokones]

1 hour ago, marcspaz said:

 

I'm with Randy on this one. Falls into the old category of "nothing is impossible but definitely improbable."

I think Randy gets his info from Zenu (sp) so you know that it has to be accurate.

[DONE]

Roger beeps interfere with operation,  no, typically not.

DTMF ID, possibly.  Might put a repeater controller in some odd state and lock it up.  Again, possible but not probable.

MDC CAUSING issues?  No, I can't see any way that would happen.  However, there is something called ANI  or RAC that uses an MDC sounding code to access a repeater.  And there are controllers that will look for specific MDC codes that are in a database to allow access to a repeater.  So if you are on a system like that, the MDC is a requirement to access the repeater in question.   Mind you these are not common at all.  But I have seen it both commercially and here on GMRS.

All that being said.  The repeater OWNER is going to have the final say on any of the three being used on their repeater.

A lot of owners don't care for roger beeps.  I am personally one.  If I wanted a courtesy tone on the repeater (roger beep) I can add that myself.

I do support the use of MDC on my repeaters, but don't require it and I don't run RAC / ANI access on my repeater since it's an open repeater.

 

[Hoppyjr]

I think Randy gets his info from Zenu (sp) so you know that it has to be accurate.

Isn’t Zenu the same one who does those “probes” ???

[OffRoaderX]

34 minutes ago, WRUZ229 said:

Isn’t Zenu the same one who does those “probes” ???

Yes. You have to pay extra but it's worth it.

[SvenMarbles]

No more than a Motorolla MDC tail does. But for some reason that's not as taboo at a roger tone.. Despite it being also completely vain and ancillary, and very popular among people who'll yell about a roger. 

[gortex2]

MDC implimented properly will not be heard by anyone. We run MDC for all our SAR stuff for ID along with MDC on the ocunty system. A few folks that have GMRS in there APX radios have MDC on repeaters and simplex. Unless your listening to it on csq you wont hear it with our implimentation. In public safety MDC/DID/UID is neccassary.