WRKG321 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 I noticed that the FCC regulations for GMRS under Digital Transitions state that "The antenna must be a non-removable integral part of the GMRS unit." Since the Btech GMRS Pro is capable of location signaling and short messages and has a detachable antenna. Doesn't this make them illegal? I hope I am reading this wrong because these are popular radios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 "illegal"? No.. Not complaint with FCCs regulations? Maybe.. But, the FCCs certified the radio sooooo.. Does the FCCs care? According to the FCCs' lack of enforcement, No Do any normal people care? No WRHS218, wrwk394, SteveShannon and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back4more70 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 I know a guy that can get me lots of these, for the right buyer. Unless you're a narc. WRUU653 and WSCH851 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808Beachbum Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 I had to look through several sites, most say nothing at all about the antenna or optional antennas, but found this directly on the Baofengtech site: Q: Is the antenna removable? A: Certification requires the stock antenna to be an integral part of the radio. The GMRS-PRO antenna is permanently glued in place and tampering with the antenna will void the radio’s warranty. What made you think it WAS removable? I have no plans to purchase one, so no first hand experience with that model... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 12 minutes ago, 808Beachbum said: What made you think it WAS removable? Probably watched someone on Youtube remove one..Thusly voiding the warranty. SteveShannon, GreggInFL, marcspaz and 3 others 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamdaj Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 With most non-bubble pack radios, I did not really think too much about the FCC's R&Rs in regards to the non-remove able antenna claws. However, I do think that the FCC could change that rule, providing the power restrictions stay in place. Then again, I can't say that I don't know why FCC placed that restriction on FRS/GMRS bubble pack radios and a few single radios, because obvious the FCC doesn't want the average user to experiment and hock up to UHF FM amplifiers, Especially on FRS channels 08 through 14. With the advancing technologies, I'm sure manufactures, such as ALINCO, BTECH KENWOOD, MIDLAND and other radio manufactures could apply for certification to include the full 22 simplex channels and keep channels 08 through 14 into mobile radios while keeping the current output of 1/2 watt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlk32170 Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 Remember, your antenna will not be tuned for GMRS. WRXP381 and WRXR255 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenMarbles Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 So you have to defeat a little bit of glue.. I see what they did there The whole nod to the customers' desire to do more than what the FCC allows is nothing new. Mars Mods are often, "hey just snip this jumper wire that for some arbitrary reason is just readily accessible to snip".... Since the CB radio times.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRXB215 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 15 hours ago, Adamdaj said: the non-remove able antenna claws Love the spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilkers Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 "illegal"? No.. Not complaint with FCCs regulations? Maybe.. But, the FCCs certified the radio sooooo.. Does the FCCs care? According to the FCCs' lack of enforcement, No Do any normal people care? No The FCC doesn't assign the FCC ID and certify the radio. The testing labs do. The test report goes on file with the FCC.The FCC has later gone and pulled certification on some radios that were later found to be illegal.Sent from my SM-S911U1 using Tapatalk WRXP381 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 18 hours ago, jwilkers said: The FCC doesn't assign the FCC ID and certify the radio. The testing labs do. The test report goes on file with the FCC. I'm not sure what your overly-pedantic point is? are you saying that the FCC IDs and certifications are meaningless and do not matter? Please clarify so we all can understand if we should ignore the FCC IDs and certifications or not. AdmiralCochrane, WRXP381 and GizzardGary 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlk32170 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 On 4/12/2024 at 8:30 AM, OffRoaderX said: "illegal"? No.. Not complaint with FCCs regulations? Maybe.. But, the FCCs certified the radio sooooo.. Does the FCCs care? According to the FCCs' lack of enforcement, No Do any normal people care? No There are several GMRS radios with removable antennas. Check out the Midland radios. WRXP381 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRXP381 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 But do they send data. The removable parts is about sending data not being a gmrs radio. It’s still a dumb rule that no one will do anything about if you do break the glue and swap your antenna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffRoaderX Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 36 minutes ago, mlk32170 said: There are several GMRS radios with removable antennas. Check out the Midland radios. Not that transmit data.. C'mon, keep up man. Hoppyjr and WRXP381 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppyjr Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 One must keep in mind that government regulations are created by people who desire control, so the actual regulation doesn’t need to make sense in practical terms. You know, just like how the firearms laws do such a great job of reducing crime in Chicago, DC, and Oakland….. GizzardGary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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