Fixed Station vs Base Station?

[marcspaz]

56 minutes ago, SteveShannon said:

Although I am not a fan of linking, what you quoted is not the written rule.  That’s the FCC interpretation of the written rules.  It does reference the actual rules it interprets (95.1733 and 95.1749) however. 

 

 

^^^  This!  Exactly this!

 

There is nothing in the rules that explains 'why' the rule is what it is.  There are several conflicting parts and sub-parts, that I have pointed out in the past, that support that 'linking' as a whole is not prohibited.  Only a specific method is prohibited.  Whatever is not expressly prohibited is allowed.

 

The truth is, I may retire this year.  If I do, my time would be freed up enough to stand-up a linked repeater network and then wait to see if the FCC is up to a lively debate in Federal court.  I don't know if I will, but the opportunity would exist and lately I am feeling kinda spicy about government overreach.

 

Don't get me wrong.  I have no personal animosity toward anyone in the FCC for simply trying to do their job and I have no intent on purposefully and intentionally violating any federal laws or rules... but we need a court case to settle the debate.  All I have seen from everyone, including the FCC staff, is conjecture and opinion based on something that is NOT written, implicitly nor implied. 

[Davichko5650]

14 hours ago, WRKC935 said:

No debate.... 45 all the way.  In a 1911.  Accept no substitute

 

We can agree to agree on this one.  Even my wife prefers my .45 to a 9 or a .380. (note - own all 3)  She comes from a family of Moose hunters so very proficient with small arms.

[WRXL702]

So - The FCC Authored The Part 95 Rules, But Cannot Interpret What They Wrote ?

Also, You Are Stating That The Mobility Division Of The WTB, Which Is An Authorized Division Of The FCC, Should Not Post Rules, Regulations Or Interpretations.

Don't Think So.

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-395324A1.pdf

https://www.fcc.gov/wireless-telecommunications

[OffRoaderX]

"some people" are so funny, all trying to prove who's smarter over something that does not matter in any way - The FCC doesn't even care.

"some people" should bicker over something that actually matters.

[marcspaz]

2 hours ago, OffRoaderX said:

"some people" are so funny, all trying to prove who's smarter over something that does not matter in any way - The FCC doesn't even care.

"some people" should bicker over something that actually matters.

 

Bickering implies that a counter position is taken because I care about the other persons opinion and how it reflects on me and my initial position.... which definitely is not the case. LoL

 

/wordsalad

[WRXL702]

2 hours ago, OffRoaderX said:

"some people" are so funny, all trying to prove who's smarter over something that does not matter in any way - The FCC doesn't even care.

"some people" should bicker over something that actually matters.

Well There You Go........

An Opinion By "Some People" About An Opinion Where Their Opinion Doesn't Actually Matter - Except To "Some People." 
 

Now I Understand.........

[WSHH887]

8 hours ago, OffRoaderX said:

"some people" are so funny, all trying to prove who's smarter over something that does not matter in any way - The FCC doesn't even care.

"some people" should bicker over something that actually matters.

Hey, I tried to drift the thread to .45 acp versus 9mm.  

[marcspaz]

17 minutes ago, WSHH887 said:

Hey, I tried to drift the thread to .45 acp versus 9mm.  

 

There is zero chance of that happening. Even the most diehard 9mm owners love and respect The Lord's caliber. 

[amaff]

1 hour ago, marcspaz said:

 

There is zero chance of that happening. Even the most diehard 9mm owners love and respect The Lord's caliber. 

It's the kind of rivalry where only 1 side thinks it's a rivalry

[SteveShannon]

10 hours ago, WRXL702 said:

So - The FCC Authored The Part 95 Rules, But Cannot Interpret What They Wrote ?

All regulatory agencies interpret their rules to their favor, from the ATF to the other end of the list. FCC is no different. Unlike some of the other agencies they don’t seem to enforce their interpretations very often. 

10 hours ago, WRXL702 said:

Also, You Are Stating That The Mobility Division Of The WTB, Which Is An Authorized Division Of The FCC, Should Not Post Rules, Regulations Or Interpretations.

Don't Think So.

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-395324A1.pdf

https://www.fcc.gov/wireless-telecommunications

I have no idea how you reached such a conclusion, and it’s not worthwhile trying. I’m glad they post both the rules and the regulations . I even agree with many of their interpretations.

[LeoG]

We know all about the Chevron Doctrine.  Where the regulatory agencies decided they could be judge, jury, court and prosecutor of all decisions.  And then make sure all the "fees" are made payable to them.

[Hoppyjr]

Threads like this have me thinking some of y’all have never seen a naked woman.

[marcspaz]

7 hours ago, Hoppyjr said:

Threads like this have me thinking some of y’all have never seen a naked woman.

 

Have you seen a naked woman?  My God... they are terrifying!  They get whatever they want, win every argument, and suck all the sense out of your head.  No thanks.

[SteveShannon]

7 hours ago, Hoppyjr said:

Threads like this have me thinking some of y’all have never seen a naked woman.

Every day for 46 years and my love for her still takes my breath away. But what does that have to do with a GMRS forum where presumably people come to discuss GMRS? Did you come here expecting people not to discuss and even argue minutiae about GMRS? 

[Hoppyjr]

Every day for 46 years and my love for her still takes my breath away. But what does that have to do with a GMRS forum where presumably people come to discuss GMRS? Did you come here expecting people not to discuss and even argue minutiae about GMRS? 

I find it amusing how topics get beat to death. It’s as if there is nothing else to do besides argue about stuff that doesn’t matter. Life is short and I don’t see the point, but hey….lets talk about linked repeaters again!

[SteveShannon]

18 minutes ago, Hoppyjr said:

I find it amusing how topics get beat to death. It’s as if there is nothing else to do besides argue about stuff that doesn’t matter. Life is short and I don’t see the point, but hey….lets talk about linked repeaters again!

So why do you come here?  I’ve noticed that a significant portion of your comments are actually about other people’s questions or comments and frequently negative, not actually contributing to the conversation.

[UncleYoda]

I come here for real info and rational topic-focused discussion.  I do not come here for all the trash talk regardless of how witty someone may think their comments are.  This topic isn't even about linking, let alone all the crazy stuff brought up.  I've decided not to post whatever good info I may get unless there's some place I can put it where it won't get trashed by smart-elec comments.

[WSHH887]

A couple of things about every forum I participated in. You have to have thick skin or your precious ego will be destroyed. Everyone has and is entitled to, even if they don't share mine and are wrong, opinions. And sweating the small stuff is not only fun but educational. 
 

Life is full of mystery and controversy. Embrace them. 

[Hoppyjr]

So why do you come here?  I’ve noticed that a significant portion of your comments are actually about other people’s questions or comments and frequently negative, not actually contributing to the conversation.

If you don’t like my posts there is an ignore function you’re free to use.

[AdmiralCochrane]

7 hours ago, SteveShannon said:

So why do you come here?  I’ve noticed that a significant portion of your comments are actually about other people’s questions or comments and frequently negative, not actually contributing to the conversation.

Some just like to type and hit enter even when it is irrelevant to the conversation.  It may be due something they need to have fulfilled.

I do agree, the ignore function works to eliminate material that shouldn't be present to begin with.

[WRYZ926]

Is a 1911 in any caliber other than 45 considered blasphemy? 

Sorry I couldn't resist.

I'm not a fan of linked GMRS repeaters, mainly because there are only 8 repeater channels. And I won't argue about fixed stations versus base stations. That can be interpreted 100 different ways by 10 people depending on the day of the week.

Always get an official response when dealing with any federal agency, NEVER trust an opinion given by word of mouth. The FCC is no different than the ATF when asking for opinions of the legality of something. You can ask the same person the same question and get different answers depending on the day of the week.

[UncleYoda]

Official response (won't say answer) is expected tomorrow.  I did not phrase the question the same as the title of this topic, but it should be good enough to settle it if they provide real answers (if they just quote the regs we'll gain nothing).  Unfortunately this is not the environment for sharing real information so I do not know if or where I would share it.

[Bogieboy01]

On 4/29/2025 at 9:34 PM, marcspaz said:

 

There is zero chance of that happening. Even the most diehard 9mm owners love and respect The Lord's caliber. 

If it aint as big as my pinky finger, it aint for me..... .500 S&W or nuthin....

[marcspaz]

45 minutes ago, Bogieboy01 said:

If it aint as big as my pinky finger, it aint for me..... .500 S&W or nuthin....

 

What? They make a .500 in something other than Nitro Express? When did that happen?