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Time to send the Jeep back for replacement! ?

Also remember most antenna cables in a vehicle are mounted and stay in the same location for years. A NMO Mount in the roof or trunk is going to be in the same location and not move around much. Radios are normally mounted with wires tied into harness's in many commercial PS applications. In my 30+ years in the field I have yet to see a broken antenna cable that was properly installed in a vehicle.

That’s how it looks when you request access. Here’s what the actual repeater information looks like:

It looks to me that he screenshot his request to use those two repeaters; not trying to be an owner/originator; and he's looking for advice on how to set his Wouxun KG-935G and Baofeng UV-5G to be able to communicate through them.

I had to give up my Ham Vanity plates just to keep all the "chicks" away!! ?

It really doesn't matter what "you consider". Part 95 is clear: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-D/part-95#p-95.303(Control station) Control station. A station at a fixed location that communicates with mobile stations and other control stations through repeater stations, and may also be used to control the operation of repeater stations. The distinction between a "base station" and a "control station" (in 95e) is that "base stations" are simplex, and a "control station" uses a repeater to talk to other stations. Note that the definition says MAY also be used. That means, "you are allowed to". It does not mean, "you HAVE to". So using what most people think of as a "GMRS base station" (mobile radio with a power supply and a rooftop antenna) to access repeaters is perfectly legal under Part 95. Oh, and fixed stations talk to other fixed stations: Fixed station. A station at a fixed location that directly communicates with other fixed stations only. Your GMRS "base station" is not a fixed station.

There are many mounts for a JT that will work fine. Many vehicles have been aluminum over the years. Antennas have been mounted on them for years. First think you should do is toss that antenna and mount out and buy a standard lip mount NMO with UHF whip. There are multiple bolts on the JT that touch aluminum so worrying about 2 small tips of a stainless bolt is not worth it. I run a true NMO mount on a bracket on both my JT and JK. You will find performance much better with a 1/4 wave on a NMO. You can use the lip mount @marcspaz used or a standard one from Laird on the top of the hood. Seen many like that so far.

Wait… you’re sending your 5 & 8 year old (bear snack sized) kids out to scout for bears? Guess you and your wife don’t have to be faster than the bear… just faster than your kids…lol

Are there plans or people interested in expanding the Net to the Pacific Northwest? -Josh WROJ763

Lets start out with my setup so this might not work for you. My repeater is a Bridgecom BCR-40DU, I purchased the URIx, 25 pin cable, and Micro SD from the myGMRS store. Make sure your not using a Raspberry Pi 4, trust me it doesn't work. I ended up getting a Raspberry Pi 3B+. After installing the micro sd card into the pi make sure you connect an ethernet cable, log in, change password like instructed, then set up wifi if you want by following instructions in the quick start guide that came with the micro sd card, don't forget to log into your router and set up port forwarding. Your gonna wanna go into your simpleusb.conf file and change a few things. sudo nano /etc/asterisk/simpleusb.conf carrierfrom = usbinvert ; no,usb,usbinvert ; no - no carrier detection at all ; usb - from the COR line on the USB sound fob (Active high) ; usbinvert - from the inverted COR line on the USB sound fob (Active low) ctcssfrom = usb ; no,usb,usbinvert ; no - CTCSS decoding, system will be carrier squelch ; usb - CTCSS decoding using input from USB sound fob (Active high) ; usbinvert - from the inverted CTCSS line on the USB sound fob (Active low) duplex = 1 ; Duplex 0,1 ; 0 - half duplex ; 1 - full duplex When your done making the changes hit ctrl + o followed by enter then ctrl + x followed by enter. I wasn't able to use DTMF tones to connect to different nodes so I found a command in one of the forum pages to connect through ssh. sudo asterisk -rx "rpt fun 24219 *3172" 24219 is my node so insert your node number, *3172 will connect me to node 172, *3xxxxx will connect you to your node of choice, xxxxx being the node number. If your gonna use the Pi as your repeater controller then your gonna have to modify your rpt.conf file. sudo nano /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf hangtime = 1000 ; squelch tail hang time (in ms) (optional, default 5 seconds, 5000 ms) althangtime = 2000 ; longer squelch tail totime = 180000 ; transmit time-out time (in ms) (optional, default 3 minutes 180000 ms) idrecording = |ixxxxxxx ; cording or morse string see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/87 ;idtalkover = |ixxxxxxx ; Talkover ID (optional) default is none see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/129 ; See Telemetry section Example: idrecording = rpt/nodenames/24219 idtime = 900000 When your done making the changes hit ctrl + o followed by enter then ctrl + x followed by enter. Change the xxxxxxx to your callsign make sure you keep the |i or it won't identify. After your done making all the changes make sure to restart asterisk by using: sudo service asterisk restart These are all the changes I did to make everything work with my system. Once I get voice ID working I'll do an update. I hope this helps someone. It took me quite a few days of playing around trying to figure this out. Joe WROE856

There is no "other side". Part 95a clearly states "A station at a fixed location". THAT is the ONLY definition that matters for any of the Part 95 services. The fact that it might be defined differently in Part 97 or 90, or that you think it means something else, or someone tells you that it means something else, matters not one bit as far as GMRS is concerned. The rules were written by (or with) lawyers, so they can be a bit obtuse. Find a lawyer to interpret them for you if you need to do so. Your original post was basically, "Oh no I'm scared that the FCC black helicopters will come and take me away if I buy a mobile GMRS radio and use it in my house." The regulations CLEARY STATE that is not the case. But I'm done here. Do whatever you want. If you don't think it's "legal" to use a mobile GMRS radio in a home installation (with external antenna and power supply), then DON'T DO THAT. Matters not one bit to me. I'll just keep using my "control station" to talk through GMRS repeaters, as will most other users of these forums and and legions of others that have a GMRS license.

There is no way I would have mine on my plate, theres tons of reports and reasons why having personal info or ways to identify your family/hobbies/political sides/ military status etc is a bad idea.

@UncleYoda GMRS is Part 95. Parts 90 and 97 don't come into play, so don't worry about them. If you buy a 20, 25, or 50 watt GMRS radio, set it on a table in your house, hook it to an antenna on the roof, and power it with a power supply, you are free to use it at full power on GMRS repeaters. Anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong.

Digital NORMAL, Digital INVERTED It specifies the type of tone expected: "QT" (aka Motorola PL, aka CTCSS), "DT" (DCS sometimes listed as DPL if following Motorola notation). The two with DTMF not only require a particular tone to be sent, but also a sequence of DTMF codes to wake up the repeater. Are those supposed to be repeaters? If they are, the Tx frequency needs to start with 467.xxx. As shown, you are set up for simplex, transmitting on the repeater OUTPUT frequency. Unfortunately, this entry does not state if the digital tone is "Normal" or "Inverted" You've been licensed 6 months and are trying to set up two repeaters?

You can put all the excess to one end and bend it horizontally into an “L”. You can divide the excess evenly and form the wire into a “[“. This might help: http://webclass.org/k5ijb/antennas/Fold-Bend-and-Mutilate.htm If your HOA allows you can lift the center (called an “inverted V”) or ends of the dipole. You could run the dipole diagonally from one corner of your roof to the other. If you have a flagpole (most HOAs won’t say no to flagpoles I have heard) you could run the excess to it. The coax should run perpendicular to the dipole as it approaches the center of dipole for best results, at least where it connects to the balun. It can lie on the roof as it approaches. Be sure to waterproof the connection if you’re using a UHF connector.

I searched and figured out how to fix the issue. You need to edit (I installed verison 1.7 of hamvoip.org so the folder might be different for you) /srv/http/allmon2/astdb.txt It's going to take me a while to create this file, since I have to go through every node on the network to get the information... Here is an example: ; NODE|CALL SIGN|FREQ./DESCRIPTION|LOCATION 100|myGMRS Network|Nationwide Hub|Dallas, TX 169|myGMRS Network|Midwest Hub|Midwest, IA 172|myGMRS Network|Northeast Hub|Albany, NY 174|myGMRS Network|Southeast Hub|Atlanta, GA 175|myGMRS Network|Southern Plains Hub|Oklahoma City, OK 176|myGMRS Network|Southwest Hub|Las Vegas, NV 177|myGMRS Network|Mountain Hub|Boise, MD 21211|WRUS599|Orlando 575|Orlando, FL 24222|WQGU515|Williamsport 675|Williamsport, Lycoming County, PA I got everything sorted out, all I need to do is finish editing this file. On the rc.updatenodelist I just added an "exit 0" after the $WGET -q -O /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes_gmrs https://link.mygmrs.com/nodes It would be nice if mygmrs.com had a way of querying the database and returning us this information. ?

Hmmm... My MXT115 (NFM-only) doesn't scan the "rp" block, regardless of if the repeater block is enabled or disabled. Only 1-7/15-22 simplex get scanned. (I pulled it in favor of a DB-20G when I discovered the 115 is only NFM; the DB-20G has per-memory N/W AND SCAN enable/disable)

That, 100% agreed. Reading the definition of a control station almost sounds like what we'd commonly think of as a base ?

Some repeaters will generate CTCSS when they ID while others don't. Your configuration for TX PL/DPL and RX PL/DPL in some radios are separate, other radios will use either a single entry for both or rely on whatever the TX PL/DPL is set to for RX if nothing is configured. Try looking for a 'monitor' button on your radio. That will open the receiver regardless of the tone being received. See if you are hearing the Morse Code when you hit that button. Also, understand that the ID of the repeater is NOT going to happen every time you key it up. There is a timer in the repeater that if it hasn't transmitted ID in the time set in the repeater programming, typically 13 to 15 minutes, it will ID. If it has ID'd in the last 14 or so minutes it should NOT do it again. There is no requirement for a repeater to ID with the PL/DPL tone encoded. Ham's typically have this enabled so they can hear it to remind them to ID. Of course, some of them have talking repeater controllers that will babble on about where the repeater is, the frequency, call sign, time, temperature, how high the tower is, how much power it's running, club membership information, and a whole list of other nonsense that no one cares about. We have a ham repeater here locally that goes on for 15 seconds with this nonsense every 9 minutes rather or not it's in use. And for the love of God don't key the thing up after it's ID'd because then the secondary in USE ID will come on and it will ID again. If it's timed right you can get it to ID 3 times in about a minute. Hence the reason NO ONE uses the dumb thing. Personally I hate talking repeater controllers. The one on MIDWEST is fine. It runs once an hour, and has useful information. But if it was announcing crap every 15 minutes I would be unlinking my repeater. Anyway, I would be looking to see how your radio handles the PL/DPL configuration and see if you can disable the PL/DPL on receive to see if that helps. I am just guessing but I am willing to bet that the radio doesn't have some special filter to keep the Morse ID out of the receiver.

One of the busy repeaters is operated by the SeaTac Repeater Association, the repeater is located on East TIger Mountain - 462.625/141.3 I've heard checkins from Yelm, Orting, Puyallup, Port Townsend, Camano Island, Stanwood, Granite Falls, North Bend. Even from hikers camping up in those mountains using HTs.

I have to admit, when there are 5 kids in the neighborhood wracking that button nonstop for 3 hours, it gets old fast. Especially when you find out the kids are all in the same room.

I am interested in expanding the net to Northwest Washington. I run the repeaters in Whatcom County. While I have a baseline knowledge of RF and setting up repeaters I do not have what it takes to get them linked. there is a local net Tuesdays at 1800 on the Lookout machine. and Pacnw send me a message for the tones on Lookout. There are parts of Seattle it will reach.