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Magnetic antenna mounts?
Sab02r and 4 others reacted to MichaelLAX for a question
The answer is still no.5 points -
Magnetic antenna mounts?
WRVS912 and 4 others reacted to OffRoaderX for a question
Question: What time is it? "Some People": The heart of a mechanical clock is the escapement mechanism, which is responsible for maintaining accurate timekeeping by allowing the clock's gears to rotate at a steady rate. The escapement mechanism typically consists of a pair of gears called the escape wheel and the verge. The escape wheel is driven by the clock's main power source, which is typically a weight or a spring, while the verge is connected to the clock's hands. As the escape wheel rotates, it drives the verge, which in turn moves the clock's hands. The escapement mechanism also includes a device called the pallet, which acts as a brake on the escape wheel, preventing it from rotating too quickly and keeping the clock's hands moving at a steady pace. In addition to the escapement mechanism, a mechanical clock also contains other components such as the mainspring, which provides the power to drive the clock, the gear train, which transmits power from the mainspring to the escapement mechanism, and the pendulum, which helps to regulate the clock's timekeeping by swinging back and forth at a constant rate.5 points -
Magnetic antenna mounts?
OffRoaderX and 3 others reacted to SteveShannon for a question
You asked a question. It was answered succinctly by @marcspaz and exhaustively why by @Lscott. You don’t need to worry about the extra thickness of the rubber. What additional help would you like?4 points -
UV-5G chirp upload issue
ogjohnboy and 2 others reacted to MichaelLAX for a question
I am a bit confused by your message, but let's move on... CHIRP uploads .IMG files to your UV-5R; not .CSV files. A generic file is never good to start with; it will only lead to problems. Start with an .IMG file that you know works with your UV-5R; such as one you saved earlier, or a fresh download. Then feel free to add additional channels and resave to your radio. .CSV is an "interchange" format that allows you to save data to be manipulated by another program. Most people like to use Excel. If you have more than one of the SAME radio, exporting as CSV is not as helpful. But if you have different radios, using CSV as an intermediary step can help you bring one radio's channels to the other radio. REMEMBER even if you move CSV data over, the new code plug must have the radio's other settings as well, which is why you want to work on the proper .IMG file for that brand of radio. CSV is also helpful to bring over pre-set frequencies from a standardized group of frequencies, like public service frequencies, especially for scanning purposes.3 points -
It says simply "Wagner orchestra". See, Richard Wagner was a favorite composer of Hitler, and the founder of Wagner Group colonel Utkin (of spetznaz) is a big fan of 3rd Reich. "Wagner" was his nick name during Crimea annexation and later in Donbass, and the private military group he leaded (may be leading to this day) inherited the name.2 points
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UV-5G chirp upload issue
SteveShannon and one other reacted to KAF6045 for a question
Tones can be useful for simplex operations if you are on a "noisy" channel, to block out the unwanted stuff... Granted, you will have to monitor the "busy" LED (or press the MONItor button to check the channel status) as someone else could be transmitting that you don't hear -- you would transmit only when the channel goes clear. As for frequency step -- that mostly applies to any operations done in VFO mode; it might be useful if you are trying to add receive-only (public service/non-GMRS) frequencies to a system for scanning purposes... presuming the radio offers slots for extra channels to be programmed.2 points -
GMRS in South Texas
WRVY822 and one other reacted to MichaelLAX for a topic
It's been said before on this Forum, but it bares repeating: If you are looking for "hobbyist" communication with strangers, it is worth the effort to gain a Technician Class Ham Radio license and use similar HTs to chat over their Repeaters, which are generally more prevalent. And with Digital modes available to you there, chat all over the world with your Digital HT. If you are trying to expand your family's range on GMRS, then yes, you need to find a repeater. Having just reread your OP: Maybe a modest contribution among family and friends and you could establish your own repeater. Have you tried hours of scanning your local 8 GMRS Repeater channels and see if there is any activity?2 points -
BTECH GMRS PRO
WRUU653 and one other reacted to SteveShannon for a topic
Yes, many people remove their stock antenna and attach a cable leading to an external antenna. That would make more difference than having a higher powered transmitter. Comet, like @MichaelLAX mentioned would be nice. There are also longer antennas for handheld use. Probably the most well known is the Nagoya 771G (tuned to GMRS frequencies), but there are others also. Just make sure you match the gender of the integral connector.2 points -
Interesting video of Ukraine drone picking up Russian handheld; if it’s true…
MichaelLAX and one other reacted to SteveShannon for a topic
Are you guys done?2 points -
Some folks say putting a "no ground plane" 1/2 wave over a ground plane works better. In my case, my Rugged Radios 1/2 wave doesn't work any different on my van than a quarter wave or 5/8 wave.2 points
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Note that a 5/8 wave is NOT a "No Ground Plane" antenna.2 points
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GMRS in South Texas
SteveShannon and one other reacted to Borage257 for a topic
Have you used the map portion of this site? It does load slow on some machines, but it is pretty much google maps with an overlay If you switch to “colored streets” or “out doors” the map will respond faster. I have yet to find a better repository of GMRS repeaters online.2 points -
GMRS in South Texas
WRVY822 reacted to MichaelLAX for a topic
Before you drive around, just let it sit and scan a few evenings and mornings while you are doing something else and see what pops up! Looks like you are closest to these repeaters: https://mygmrs.com/repeater/5330 https://mygmrs.com/repeater/6460 https://mygmrs.com/repeater/5671 Of which only the first one, Ingleside TX, seems to be open and the other two require permission (so go to their map pages linked above and ask permission). Then go drive by the first one and see if you can "hit" it and if you can, announce your call sign and ask for information about that repeater. The first one (Ingleside) has these notes:1 point -
Interesting video of Ukraine drone picking up Russian handheld; if it’s true…
SteveShannon reacted to WRUU653 for a topic
I missed the mark on that a bit. Thanks for info. I was unable to give more likes today.1 point -
Interesting video of Ukraine drone picking up Russian handheld; if it’s true…
SteveShannon reacted to WRUU653 for a topic
Wagner’s orchesto, I translated from the screenshot. His name perhaps? I’m not sure of the translation.1 point -
Interesting video of Ukraine drone picking up Russian handheld; if it’s true…
SteveShannon reacted to axorlov for a topic
Radio in video also could be R-187-N1 (or -P1), another russian encrypted FHSS radio with analog FM, AM and TETRA. They are compatible with earlier mentioned R-168-UM, but are newer. https://reibert.info/lots/radiostancija-azart-r-187-p1.946513/ Radio in this ad is with extended battery, the short batteries do exists. This ukrainian review mentions good sensitivity and great selectivity "much better than Baofeng": https://armyinform.com.ua/2022/11/20/trofejna-radiostancziya-azart/ Great tear-down pics, don't miss. Ukrainians also managed to crack or steal master password that works on any R-187-N1, apparently. The quality of the video is poor, so hard to tell. But I don't think it makes sense to pick up a Baofeng or Motorola. On the other hand, encrypted FHSS radio with actual programming from the enemy will allow better tactical awareness for the ukranian units in the area.1 point -
Dpl 265
FlatTop reacted to wayoverthere for a topic
Yes, the N and the I specify "normal" or "inverted" version of the digital tone. Usually if the letter is omitted, "normal" is assumed. At worst, if one doesn't work, switch to the other.1 point -
Newer MXT275 units with the USB-C port now come with wide band for the repeater channels, although some leftovers are still coming with narrow band. If a USB-C 275 has narrow band, you can mail it in and have them convert it to wide band. I did so and it works fine. If it's an older 275 without the USB-C port then it'll be narrow band only. (And I wish companies would change model numbers when they change major features.) The 50-watt 575 may be of some use if you have to push the transmission through a lot of trees or buildings, but you still cannot receive any better than the 275 with the same antenna. My 15-watt 275 hits a repeater 30 miles away through suburbia using a 6" quarter wave on the hood. The 575 may have a few more features such as wide/narrow selection. A 15-watt radio with a good antenna is much better than a 50-watt radio with a lousy antenna.1 point
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UV-5G chirp upload issue
MichaelLAX reacted to ogjohnboy for a question
That was actually going to be my next question. From what I've read the tones are just for turning on repeaters and areny necessary. The 5G is just gonna be for use around the property and in emergency situations since there's a decent amount of repeater coverage in my area. Plus I haven't done my ham license yet...1 point -
UV-5G chirp upload issue
ogjohnboy reacted to MichaelLAX for a question
Looking at your frequency_list.csv file, ALL 22 of your GMRS/FRS channels have Tone 67.0 for both transmit AND receive! Definitely turn off the Receive Tones.1 point -
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Interesting video of Ukraine drone picking up Russian handheld; if it’s true…
SteveShannon reacted to Lscott for a topic
Any more theories about the radio? Is there a list of what radios are known to be used by all sides in the conflict there? I've looked at the spec's for the radios used in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. When I watch some old war movies I try to see what kind/model of radio they used. It's shocking how little power output the manpack radios had during those times. Anywhere from a few hundred milliwatts to a watt or so. The radios were really the size of a backpack. Now you get more power and performance out of something that fits in a shirt pocket. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCR-300 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/PRC-77_Portable_Transceiver1 point -
UV-5G chirp upload issue
ogjohnboy reacted to SteveShannon for a question
That’s right. You are required to transmit on the channels established in the regulations. Tune step is meaningless for a compliant GMRS radio.1 point -
UV-5G chirp upload issue
SteveShannon reacted to MichaelLAX for a question
You cannot make any modifications that violate Part 95(e) rules. What does your "pre-made channel configuration" consist of?1 point -
Okay you can do it better... Always going to be someone who can. You didn't answer the question. Where are you getting the data for all the repeaters for your "better version" (not open source, not free to use)? Are you just planning on stealing it from @rdunajewski or are you going to get permission from where it is required (the owners of all those repeaters)? I'm all for improvements it just seems like bad form, I would go so far as to call it rude to be disparaging the free site on which you have the privilege of using. Just sayin...1 point
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Hmm...my escapement mechanism is .45acp, which should conduct me to either my 12ga repulsion mechanism, or my .308 powered defeatment mechanism...which is only necessary if my avoidance mechanism fails. ?1 point
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GMRS in South Texas
SteveShannon reacted to WRUU653 for a topic
Crude and rude? Slow? It seems to work good for me. Your own version? And where would the data come from? Certainly not here. As @Borage257 points out have you used the map portion here? It is like Google maps. How about a little appreciation for the site you’re on… or am I missing something?1 point -
GMRS in South Texas
SteveShannon reacted to WRVY822 for a topic
Steve, Thanks for the clarification. I still haven't figured out how to do some of that on the radio. This is my first rodeo with GMRS.1 point -
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Thank y'all very much ! The MXT275 Midland radio is the first radio that I have ever mounted into a vehical. The small magnet antenna is already up on the roof with the wire simply going through the door just so I could get started. I have one more set of LED lights to go up onto the roof rails and when that install happens I will be running the antenna cord through the roof at the same time. I will be running the DC Power cables up to the lights on the passenger side, while antenna cable will be run up through the roof on the driver side. I really apprecate the comments and insights. I will be mounting the antenna in the center of the aluminum flat bar, spanning crosswise between the roof rails with a gap of 8 inches between the roof and the base of the antenna. Again, thank you for your comments and insights. I will grab and post a pic after the install.1 point
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Get one anyway for ht experimentation! See how far you can simplex between your ‘base’ and a ht w/yagi.1 point
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GMRS in South Texas
WRUU653 reacted to SteveShannon for a topic
Also, at that point when you are hearing the input channel, some radios allow you to scan for tones.1 point -
GMRS in South Texas
WRUU653 reacted to MichaelLAX for a topic
Which radio do you have? Here’s what I do when I go repeater hunting: Scan the 8 output chnnels until you hear conversations. Make notes which Channels have activity. Then listen on the Input frequency for those active frequencies: for example, 467.675 and if you can hear them, you are close to that operator and maybe the repeater.1 point -
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GMRS in South Texas
WRUU653 reacted to MichaelLAX for a topic
In my experience with large states such as California and Texas, there is no Tool that limits Repeaters geographically, like the Map does (or am I missing something?). Also I always turn on Show Offline Repeaters and Show Stale Repeater in the circular widget in the upper left corner of the map.1 point -
It's a hobby. People will comment about the money I've spent on my radio collection and electronic test gear. I ask them how much did those new snowmobiles motorcycles and boat, they use just a few months out of the year, cost them. The silence from them is pure gold.1 point
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Ground plane and mounting Ghost antenna to van roof
WRKC550 reacted to PACNWComms for a question
I went back into the gallery and found one of my pictures, showing antennas on my old Pontiac. I had a Sirius satellite radio antenna, a UHF Antennex Phantom antenna, and then a whisker style VHF antenna mounted on the right side of the trunk lip. Original configuration was spaced out, but too many people thought it was a cop car (local PD's bought Pontiac's for their detective vehicles), and I was even pulled over a few times to find out how they could get the shorter antennas like mine. The local radio shop put larger antennas on those detective vehicles and they were not very discrete. Once I put all the antennas next to one another, people just thought it was the factory configuration and I never had anyone wonder (at least to me) after that. Worked well with a VHF and a UHF Vertex VX-3200 stack mounted in the console. It was nice having enough room to mount mobile radios in the dash, making them look like part of the dash. I miss that car.1 point -
Can there be lower cost levels of support?
WRPG745 reacted to SteveShannon for a topic
I’m writing to suggest creating lower cost ways to support this site. I would gladly pay $20 per year. I think you might get more subscribers at that level, even without the benefits that a $50 subscriber receives. To me, $50 is just too much, a psychological hurdle, but I would like to help.1 point -
Can there be lower cost levels of support?
WRPG745 reacted to SteveShannon for a topic
I went ahead and joined at the $50 level because it’s the only way to support right now, but I still think that if there were additional, lower priced levels of support, even if they don’t receive anything for it, people would join them, just to provide some financial support. Having 200 people pay $20 is better than 20 people paying $50. $50 might not seem like much, but it’s more than twice what I spend to belong to other hobby forums. I’m not a professional. I don’t have a repeater and I don’t care about most of the features that come with premium membership. I just enjoy the forums. Although I just use GMRS radios for very simple communications, apparently forums are my hobby.1 point -
And back before GMRS became wide-open (ie: back when a GMRS license was only good for TWO main frequencies (channel depended on radio radio programming, so the frequency could be a different channel on different radios), specified when applying for the license) the FCC DID have a designated emergency/traveller aid /frequency/... That was the xxx.675 frequency set, with recommended CTCSS 141.3. The old Maxon GMRS 210+3 HT provided two programmable channels (#9 and #10), the seven GMRS interstitials (#1-7), AND had the emergency frequency fixed in channel #8 (since anyone could use that channel for a true emergency/TA, the Maxon allowed one to select any two of the main frequencies for their license -- on the common two channel business [Part 90 LMR] HTs, the recommendation was to specify .675 as one of the two licensed frequencies to have access to it for emergency [and as it was on the license, could also be used for general purpose stuff]). .675 equates to channel #20 in the unified GMRS and FRS numbering scheme.1 point
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Just when you thought this would end. We need a wooden stake. This vampire just won't stay down.1 point
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Un-official GMRS travel channel?
WRNX238 reacted to SteveShannon for a topic
In theory consensus is great, but takes a long time and frequently results in frustration. Having someone simply say out-loud something that makes sense to a lot of people is just fine. Personally, I would have preferred channel 20. It’s next in order, denoting an incremental progression over CB’s channel 19; it’s unaffected by Line A (some of us do travel along the high line, where that’s a concern); and it reflects the notion the GMRS is CB 2.0. But the simple fact is that a lot of people already think of channel 19 as “The Travel Channel”. It just works. Sometimes it just takes one person to make a decision instead of a bunch of people milling around expecting someone else to do something. I can live with it.1 point -
Un-official GMRS travel channel?
WRPA477 reacted to OffRoaderX for a topic
Someone finally got tired of the endless circular arguments to see who has the biggest antenna and actually DID something... It's now officially channel 19 .. Argue, complain, whine, list your credentials all you want, whats done is done.1 point -
Well, I think this thread has pretty clearly established that GMRS Channel 20 is considered by many to be the "official" travel channel for GMRS. Since this thread is about "un-official" GMRS travel channels, it would seem to me that 19 for highway conditions and 16 for off-highway use would both make pretty good "un-official" travel channels, each for their respective purposes. As with every idea along this vein, they have to start somewhere. Once started, they need to catch on locally, then spread to other areas, gaining acceptance along the way. With 4x4 clubs being pretty popular, each club could choose to adopt channel 16 as their "official" GMRS channel. I think this would be fairly easy to implement within the off-roading community, as there are groups within the community to promote the idea. While some groups may choose not to implement such a plan, I'm sure many would do so, just as they did with CB channel 4 years ago. For highway conditions, the use of channel 19 would be a lot trickier. Even though this was the case with CB for many years, I think it would be harder to get this idea off the ground for GMRS. The main reason for this is that there aren't a lot of recognized groups to promote the idea. Maybe writing a letter to your local AAA branch would be a way to promote this idea. If they were to buy in, and promote the idea within their membership, you might have a chance of getting this idea off the ground. My expectation, however, is that they would most likely adopt the official or semi-official channel 20 instead, if only for the reason that it doesn't have the geographical restrictions near the Canadian border that are found with channel 19.1 point
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Un-official GMRS travel channel?
WRNX238 reacted to MichaelLAX for a topic
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Un-official GMRS travel channel?
WRVX650 reacted to OffRoaderX for a topic
This is the obvious answer.. Everyone knows that CB Ch19 is the unofficial official road channel so it makes sense that GMRS Ch19 would be the same.. Someone should go on Youtube and decree it, to make it official..1 point -
"A GMRS travle channel should not be a repeater channel simplex only" So what do you mean by this. We only have 8 repeater channels. Are you proposing to use channels 1-7 which are 5 watt low power ? For me I dont want someone camping on my repeater pair or using it as a "road" channel. If your set on a designated channel I'd pick a 1-7 channel.1 point
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This means channel 19 and 20 are not to be used within closes proximity of Canada boarder. for the most part upper parts of MI and the north east states that are rather populated would be effected. west of MI the line is straight and not as populated. Best see attachment file. Comparing CB past problem's are some what germane, I hope Legal licensed GMRS usurers would not use a busy travel channel and monitor if the activity that is germane to your geographic location and find info usable. To "chew the rag" keep it short or move to another channel. Licensed GMRs for common curtsy would announce there call sign a help keep the non Licensed users a bay some. Non-Licensed are free to lessen, to those not giving a call sign one does not have to respond. I know there will alwyas be the "cowboy illegals" upset the apple cart. If you want to worry about the few that don't play by any rules we will go on and on and NRVER advance the GMRS concept. Remember the G in GMRS is general, Not just my close frinds or people that think like me. General invites ALL. A travle channel must first consider ALL in the picture. The majority of FCC rules are intended so ALL use the air-waves and get along. In time I see more GMRS getting licensed and seeing the benefits of working togeter not dividing us. A GMRS travle channel should not be a repeater channel simplex only, no tones. as well as limited to a lower power in congested population high traffic locations. https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/frequency-coordination-canada/1 point
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Un-official GMRS travel channel?
WRNX238 reacted to DownEastNC for a topic
If there was a suggested or official GMRS travel channel, I would use it. I've also considered getting my own window decals that essentially say something like "GMRS - CH20" to let other's know what channel I'm monitoring, call sign optional. I just recently made a two day turnaround, 350 miles each way, and had the radio on scan. I picked up some repeater chatter, a little car to car chatter, and in one city there was a road crew using a channel (I'm assuming on FRS) to direct traffic flow. Not one person chimed in and said "Break for that good looking guy in the pickup truck", so I was a bit disappointed in that respect. Perhaps if I had those decals the results would be different. ? Jokes aside, I know that many aren't too keen on seeing GMRS go to the wild side like CB did back in the 70's. I wouldn't want that either but it would be nice to be able to reach out to get a traffic report or local information during the trip and hey, if you were really bored then just have a friendly chat on a side channel. Actually I don't believe two way radio will hit the frenzy like CB did years ago mainly because of mobile phones. Most folks are self absorbed with their phone and that's as far as they want to take it. So if the GMRS community ever gets organized enough to have an official travel channel then I'll roll with it and if MyGMRS wants to crank out some decals then I'd be glad to pitch in on that too. My 2¢1 point -
Very good question. I am utterly amazed there has not been more talk about this topic. While I am not an expert on the subject I will share what I do know. - There is no official need for DTMF in GMRS. It is a feature that can be used when you have a special need for it. - DTMF codes are commonly used to remotely control repeaters and to control other electronics that might be monitoring the frequency. - In some radio circles (outside GMRS) some repeaters and other radios might require both a tone burst to trigger a remote receiver to open up. This is a feature that equipment that long pre-dated CTCSS and DCS sometimes needed for operation. I know of no cases in GMRS where is applicable today. Perhaps someone else will have a current day example where it is being used. - Sidetones refers to the feature of your radio that allows you, the operator, to hear the tones that your radio is sending out. This could be your radio’s ANI-ID, manual DTMF from button presses, or even select-call calling tones. The term ‘Sidetone’ comes from telephony and refers to the sound emitted from the ear piece portion of the phone. If you press a button on the phone’s keypad you will hear the tones from the ear piece. In your radio, when sidetones are not active you could very well be sending out DTMF tones and have no idea that you are. If you are using DTMF for anything, turn sidetones on so you know when and what you are sending. - The ANI-ID on your radio is a number that you establish that identifies your radio. You have six digits available and values must be greater than 101. - If you have ANI-ID turned on, when you press and/or release your PTT, your ANI-ID is sent out. The BOT, EOT and BOTH values you see in one of you radio’s function menus determines if your ANI-ID is sent out when you press PTT, release PTT or press and release. - If a receiving radio has a DTMF decoder within it, your ANI-ID will appear on their display suggesting to them which radio is transmitting. - The ‘Ring’ feature is one that, when properly enabled, allows other radios in your group to cause your radio to ring to attract your attention. For this to occur, the transmitting radio must have a valid ANI-ID value configured, the receiving radio must have an ANI-ID configured, and the transmitting radio also needs to have the receiving radio’s ANI-ID entered into the Call Group it is using. So, for example, if you have two radios, one with an ANI-ID 101 and another with an ANI-ID 102, radio 101 can cause radio 102 to ring, and radio 102 can cause radio 101 to ring. The Call Group fields are where you enter the ANI-ID of the various radios you want to be able to call/ring. Think of them like speed-dial memories. For radio 101 to call 102, radio 101 would have 102 in one of its Call Group cells. - When you have one of your PF buttons configured to make a Call, that button causes two things to be sent out in rapid succession: your ANI-ID and the receiving radio’s ANI-ID. Using the 101 and 102 radio example above, this takes the form of ‘101#102’. - Some wildcards are supported in Call Groups. Instead of entering ‘101’ in a Call Group, you could enter ‘1**’. The later would case all radios whose ANI-ID begins with ‘1’ to ring. - Ringing is not enabled by default on Wouxun radios. One must expressly enable it. - One way to enable ringing is to set the current channels SP-Mute mode to “QT*DT” or ‘QT*DTMF”. Since SP-MUTE is a channel-by-channel setting you can have some memory channels configured to ring when called and others that do not. - ANI-ID needs to be programmed, but it does not need to be turned on to always send out to use the Select call feature. I have found zero Wouxun documentation or videos that covers this. Admittedly I struggled for sometime trying to piece it together. Thanks to [mention=5881]IanM[/mention] who provided some enlightenment to help me bring it all into focus. I have found some BF stuff that covers the subject a little, but terminology is slightly different. These features have, in my view, practical use in large organized group and family outings. They have also had merit, and perhaps still do, in some LMR circles. I recently have been configuring all my radios to have unique ANI-ID, and setting up Calling Groups. I have yet to work to work out the specific details of the SP-Mute mode called ‘QT+DT’ or QT+DTMF. But my current understanding is that the radio will not break squelch until it hears an ANI-ID in DTMF form and then when it does there is some other unique behavior. I will soon be exploring that and documenting its behavior. Hope this helps. Michael WRHS965 KE8PLM Edit: If you to do some experimenting and to see things work with little complication do this: 1) Configure multiple Wouxun radios. Give each a unique ANI-ID starting a 101 and going up. Use 101 in your KG-935G. 2) Set each radio to GMRS channel 01 (462.5625), low power. 3) Make sure all radios are using the same CTCSS. Say 67.0 Tx and Rx. 4) Set the SP-MUTE mode for channel 01 on all radios to QT*DT. 5) On your KG-935G radio, enable sending out of the ANI-ID each time the PTT is pressed. 6) Turn all radios on. 7) Press PTT on the KG-935G and immediately press 102# and watch what happens. Then repeat using the ANI-ID for all other radios. This simulates a select call. 8) Press PTT on the KG-935G and immediately press 1** and watch what happens. 9) Press PTT on the KG-935G and immediately press *# and watch what happens. When you have made it this far and have seen ANI-ID show up on the radio displays and you have successfully experienced ringing, then move to programming your call groups in the radios if you decide you want to use them. You may also wish to explore the different behaviors you get if some radios are in the 100 series, some in 200 series and some in the 300 series of ANI-ID values. BTW, Despite PTT-ID being a menu option on the 805G, the ID is never sent out of that radio, nor will the radio ever display one if it receives one.1 point