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Just installed Comet CP-5NMO (finally got a warmer day) and did exactly what i needed it to do and the Comet SBB-1 NMO works perfect. Nice a sturdy and the antenna is actually quite impressive on AIR band besides what its designed for. 


 
Ill be using it with my H3 and my Q10H depending on needs. 

They market to the Jeep crowd, including via event sponsorship. 
Excluding some quality issues with a couple of the recently introduced models, it seems like more of the complaints boil down to the limitations of the radios than something actually being "wrong" with the radios.  Some of this may be attributable to their marketing, or just unmet expectations.
Midland has their marketing down pat, and they do the simple "plug in and go" pretty well, and while they've improved on it with some recent models, they're still somewhat limited feature wise, especially for the price point....if they work for you as they are (and you're okay with the price), they aren't a bad choice.

They market to the Jeep crowd, including via event sponsorship. 
Excluding some quality issues with a couple of the recently introduced models, it seems like more of the complaints boil down to the limitations of the radios than something actually being "wrong" with the radios.  Some of this may be attributable to their marketing, or just unmet expectations.
Midland has their marketing down pat, and they do the simple "plug in and go" pretty well, and while they've improved on it with some recent models, they're still somewhat limited feature wise, especially for the price point....if they work for you as they are (and you're okay with the price), they aren't a bad choice.

People are willing to pay for easy out of the box and reliable. 

They market to the Jeep crowd, including via event sponsorship. 
Excluding some quality issues with a couple of the recently introduced models, it seems like more of the complaints boil down to the limitations of the radios than something actually being "wrong" with the radios.  Some of this may be attributable to their marketing, or just unmet expectations.
Midland has their marketing down pat, and they do the simple "plug in and go" pretty well, and while they've improved on it with some recent models, they're still somewhat limited feature wise, especially for the price point....if they work for you as they are (and you're okay with the price), they aren't a bad choice.

They market to the Jeep crowd, including via event sponsorship. 
Excluding some quality issues with a couple of the recently introduced models, it seems like more of the complaints boil down to the limitations of the radios than something actually being "wrong" with the radios.  Some of this may be attributable to their marketing, or just unmet expectations.
Midland has their marketing down pat, and they do the simple "plug in and go" pretty well, and while they've improved on it with some recent models, they're still somewhat limited feature wise, especially for the price point....if they work for you as they are (and you're okay with the price), they aren't a bad choice.

A facepalm, or banging head on the desk comes to mind, especially when I'm failing especially badly at the touch keyboard

A facepalm, or banging head on the desk comes to mind, especially when I'm failing especially badly at the touch keyboard

"A lot of my friends wreck in beet fields, but I never touch them myself."

I'm guessing before the rule changes GMRS licenses could be assigned to businesses. That would have been the attraction for the dual 90/95 certification. Now with the new rules it's only for individual users, unless the business has a grandfathered license they kept current.

That was most of it. Our shop sold lotys of GMRS systems to schools, malls and other small outfits. Mainly because we were north of Line A and even an itinerate UHF split would take over a year to get a license on. GMRS was 5-7 days after we submitted. Sold alot of Midland LMR gear, some Motorola and ICOM stuff. 

The Part 95 certification combined with having the range to fully cover 70cm (as I had my eye toward my ham license at the time) was one of the big factors in choosing it   
And found the ID, it's K6610354640
 
  
It's not fully side by side, but there's a thread on reddit where a user tested power outputs of a few popular MARS-modded ham handhelds on GMRS; the FT5D was one that was noticeably down on power on GMRS.

You bet.  
The current wording of 47 CFR 95.1761 does disallow gear usable in amateur radio service from being certified, so I agree it follows that 400-470 would be disqualified under the current state of affairs, though it appears the door is still open for the 450-490 or 450-512 radios to be dual certified (90/95E). Whether the manufacturers see it as worth spending the money on is the question, though based on what's available it seems like mostly not. 
I did a little digging in the prior version of the CFR (prior to the sections being shuffled in 2017 and GMRS was under 95a), and I'm not finding any similar wording disallowing overlapping between services.  Really the only thing I found regarding certification pointed to the OET page, and referenced a list of certified transmitters that doesn't seem to exist anymore.

I'll have to find the FCC ID for it, but IIRC the Vertex Standard VX-4207 carried both 90 and 95 certification for both the 400-470 (g6) and 450-512 (g7) versions.
No luck with searches, so I'll have to find the ID for my g6 (aka dig one of them out). The g7 is FCC id K6610354740

Thank you all for your responses. I agree with everything you have written. In short, I get what I pay for. Once again thank you for taking the time to respond in a friendly, professional and respectful manner. 73's.
 

I have the prior version (GMRS 50x1) and after a year or two of use, mostly monitoring with minimal transmit time, it no longer holds power on high. It'll start at 44-45 watts, and start dropping almost immediately, leveling off at 25 or so after around a minute.
It's currently living on the shelf.

They're also well into the San Joaquin valley as well, with the Joaquin Ridge machine; I can hear that one in Fresno area, and if the range is anything like the CARLA machine, it's likely got some coverage to parts of the Sierras.

while there's been lots of valid points raised already, I'll mention something I noticed looking at the specs for that glass mount...wouldn't 1.5dBi effectively be negative gain antenna in the real world? (dBi vs dBd and all)
that aside, I've absolutely run into auto glass on newer cars impeding the signal, which would be an issue with that glass mount inside as well.  aside from the mentioned "hatpin" (uhf 1/4 wave, which are quite inexpensive), Midland's "ghost" (MXTA25) antennas seem to get decent reviews, and that would be fairly unnoticeable hard mounted on the roof without compromising ground clearance (they're less than 4" tall).

Did some digging on the repeaters, and I see a couple possibilities; I suspect the reality is a combination of more than one.  My half educated guesses would be:
First, you may be hearing linked repeaters.  Less likely for the GMRS side now that the rules have been clarified to disallow connections via the internet, but not impossible.  More likely on the ham side; i didn't see any notes or common call signs that would solidify it digging a little on repeaterbook, but there are a few repeaters west and north with matching frequencies.
Second, an unhappy transmitter/amplifier throwing harmonics. that 446 frequency is a bit, but not horribly far off of 3x the 147 frequency.
Third, you have a repeater (or a ham) transmitting close by with a fair bit of power, and it's simply overloading the front end of your radios, so it seems to be bleeding through on other channels it isn't actually on.  While it sounds like they've improved somewhat (varying between models and even examples of the same model), it's still a definite possibility.  (one of my UV5R's will go completely deaf (desense) with as little as 1/2 watt in close proximity, even on a different frequency).

Looks like it's listed as option 0 in the menu, on pg 21 (reading it in pdf from radioddity's site). The menu item is called "TMR", and you tell it which ones you want to monitor (a, b, c, and/or d), and then used the abcd button to cycle through the 4 lines and set each one to the channels/frequencies you want to monitor. If I understand it right, it treats whichever one you have selected as the "Main". I tend to set a channel I might want to transmit on on main.
The setup and functionality seem similar to my btech 50x1, which makes sense because it the db25g looks to be based on the btech 25x2 and 25x4.

In the past I've referred to it as 'ham lite' or 'frs plus', depending how it's treated in a given area...not intended as a dig, just GMRS can be a bit less complicated way to play radio, and some areas have just as much enthusiast involvement as ham, while others it's really a "stick to your group" crowd .

In the end you use the service in a way that best fits your needs.

In the past I've referred to it as 'ham lite' or 'frs plus', depending how it's treated in a given area...not intended as a dig, just GMRS can be a bit less complicated way to play radio, and some areas have just as much enthusiast involvement as ham, while others it's really a "stick to your group" crowd .

I received the new KG-935H yesterday and ran test on high power this morning with a fresh battery using my Surecom SW-102 and a *dummy load, here is what I got. I posted my KG-Q10H at ultra high setting results for comparison. I have not had a chance to take it out in the world as of yet.
* I mention this because obviously MURS and GMRS are not type approved and MURS output is way high at these settings. This is only a test, if this had been an actual emergency you would have heard screaming 😂
KG-935H
2m - 8.8 watts
1.25m - 4.6 watts
70cm - 8.4 watts
GMRS - 6.8 watts rept, 7.4 watts smpx 
MURS - 9.7 watts
KG-Q10H
2m - 4.5 watts
1.25m - 2.9 watts
70cm -  6.5 watts
6m - 1.1 watts
GMRS - 5.5 watts
MURS - 4.6 watts