gman1971 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 So, as AdmiralCochrane pointed out on another thread... there isn't a main thread where the pros/cons of brand, non CCR, name radios are explained, so beginners don't fall on the Cheap China Radios trap... thinking they are getting a killer deal, when they are not. The question for this thread is: Why are used, and usually older, brand name radios a much better value than most Cheap China Radios? or CCRs? Most of those 2nd hand brand radios, Motorola, Kenwood, ICOM, et. all are perfectly functional radios, some might have scratches, dirt, etc, but they are no longer being used b/c the company upgraded to fancier models, usually with color screens and lots of buttons to click around, etc... The best example I can think of this are the XPR 4550/6550 Gen1 MotoTRBO radios (DMR) which are, as measured, still pretty darn good radios for the money; obviously the Gen2 have even better receivers, and fancier screens, with more buttons in some cases. So, I'll start with the XPR 6550 portable series. First I'll put the price I've seen on average on eBay, then some pros/cons. Average price doesn't mean its always that way, some go for much higher, others have gone for much lower. 135 is the average of what I paid for all my 6550 radios, so its not a made up number. Average cost: $135 USD, eBay. Usually includes charger and battery, both tend to be genuine as well. Some might even include programming CD too..Cost of programming cable: 35-85 bucks, 85 being Moto genuine cable, 35 being the no brand one. I have one of each. Pros:-High performance, tunable, varactor Front End. (Radio won't become useless (desense) when other strong signals are around)-The last superhet dual conversion in the XPR line AFAIK.-LCD backlit screen. (6550 model)-Motorola SMA connector. (same as Baofeng, ugh... blasphemy... Motorola and Baofeng should never be in the same sentence hahaha )-Lots of inexpensive accessories, including batteries and chargers, if you want to keep costs down vs. the genuine Moto accesories. -FM and DMR digital (Tier II)-Battery on digital will last a very long time.-Submersible, and the brand name Motorola shoulder mics are also submersible too.-Nearly indestructible... don't ask me how I know this.-Microphone can also sport an antenna without an additional cable, since the side pinout has a coaxial RF out. (very handy feature)-Loud, in fact its so darn loud you can use it in place of an alarm clock.-Several audio tuning features, which improves audio quality to your liking.-A ton of "community" support.-Very easy, and affordable, to replace the entire housing if it ever breaks. -Service manuals to fix nearly anything that might wrong. Cons-Single band.-Bigger than average... its not a brick, but its much bigger than say, a TH-F6a... -CPS can be challenging at first... it was quite daunting for me when I first moved into DMR style CPS/radios... but once you get the hang of it there is no going back.-No VFO, if you like that sort of thing. I thought I would miss that, I haven't, and I think its been nearly a year since I stopped carrying my Alinco MD5...-Rotary knob cannot be locked when the keypad is locked. Can be frustrating, but you put the holster loop around the antenna so its not a problem.-16 channels per zone. This one was somewhat of a pain... since the Rotary Encoder only has 16 positions, the channel per zone is just 16. I split the GMRS channels into FRS and GMRS channel zones, so I could fit 14 FRS use and 16 for GMRS use, 12.5 vs 20.-Needs an entitlement to do 25kHz, which can be obtained free from Motorola.-Only Part 90. G. Downs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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