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  1. Ok, so here's the situation.  I am both Ham and GMRS licensened. My son has a Baofeng GM-15 Pro. and I have a Baofeng UV21 Pro. So his radio only transmitts on GMRS but can recieve  VHS as well.  My will transmitt on both. So, since I can do a 2 meter simplex to transmit, and then set his to transmit on GMRS and recieve said 2 meter frequency.  please explain where the legality issue comes in.
    You are basically making a one way transmission. Your conversation is split between 2 services. One way communications are forbidden by regulations.

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  2. Tell you what.  How about I take all my shit off the air and you can sit and listen to static.  Maybe some kids once in a while on FRS.  Since I am the only one in central Ohio with a linked repeater, I am obviously the one wasting the precious spectrum that no one else seems to want to bother with putting a repeater on. 
    Balls in your court now buddy.  You don't like what I provide for free.  You put a repeater on the air.  I will turn all this gear back into cash and make it someone else's issue. 
    It gets old listening to others complain about what I do with no cost to others because I can.  If you don't like it, don't use it.  I really don't care at this point.
    I'm extremely grateful for your local repeater and the amateur repeaters. They are a definite benefit for both services.

    I've always viewed GMRS as a local mode of communication. If I want to talk longer distance, then my amateur license comes into play.

    Don't let me ruin your day. It's not worth it


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  3. Sometimes equipment falls thru the cracks. The testing lab assigns the FCC ID and just forwards all the test reports to the FCC. Sometimes, the test labs certify equipment that is in violation. The FCC eventually catches the error and yanks the certification .

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  4. I was chastised by a "helpful" HAM two decades ago for inadvertently using a 10-code with a fellow off duty LEO on 2m. It just amazes me how HAMs will use Q codes on voice and end their transmissions on 2m with 73s and then complain about other people. Of course, I don't play well with others.
    You used cb 10 codes. That's different from the ham radio q codes. You don't wanna sound like a cber.

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  5. I have the anytone 5555. Have talked to a few local guys on FM and it sounds great. Problem is that you have to ask one to go there as they still hang out on AM.
    Those modified rigs use a wider deviation than what is allowed for cb. You may find them a bit quiet and you will.sound garbled to them.

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  6. Then stop putting repeaters on top of other repeaters! Simple solution because you don't need more than a few. Here in Southern California we have idiots that need to shut up and allow others to periodically use the frequency. Those are the real issues.

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    I agree 100%! You get every Tom, dick, and Harry wanting to set up a repeater just because they want one. Don't ask for a new mode of communication to compensate for irresponsible use of spectrum.

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  7. As I have posted the other week, I am fairly new to GMRS, although I have been around two way communication for many years.
    I have recently received permission to use a repeater in my area  and am very appreciative of this.  The other day, after listening several day to the local traffic to learn proper etiquette, I attempted to communicate through the repeater by identifying myself with call sign and location. 
    Some guy instantly acknowledged me and demanded that I turn off my roger beep because it raises havoc with the equipment.  From my previous listening, I know that this individual is not the owner of the repeater.
    Now, if the owner himself doesn’t like roger beeps, its his equipment, and he is gracious enough to allow me to use it. For this I’m am very thankful and will oblige any demands or requests that he has. If I don’t like his demands and requests, I don’t have to use his service.
    My question to the forum is; a roger beep is a roger beep. As far  as I can tell, it’s just an additional part of your transmission.  I really need someone to explain in terms that my little rat like brain can comprehend how a roger beep is going to take out someone’s equipment.  
    The way I look at this whole thing….. Instead of idiots that like to deadkey and jam repeaters, it they are that malicious, why don’t they just send out a series of roger beeps and nuke the entire system. Apparently roger beeps can be as destructive as an actual EMP.
    Thanks ahead of time for your feedback.  I look much forward to learning more about the destructive powers of the roger beep.
     
    No Roger beeps. Not proper etiquette. You'll find yourself with no one to talk to.

    On Cb, Roger beeps are known as "good buddy beeps" . The user is inviting people for a romantic interlude at a rest area men's room.

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  8. Mostly that’s a convenient way to view it, but there are some fine details that differ.  Base stations may communicate with both base stations or mobile stations. Base stations may not communicate on the any of the 467 frequencies, whereas fixed stations may communicate with each other on the 467 main channels.
    Not how I read it. If a base communicates with another base, then they are "fixed stations" bases can only talk to mobiles.

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  9. Define wireline using the CFR Title 47 definitions please. Same for where the rules state it must be a short range service.
    I guess wireline is any non RF mode of transport of intelligence. Again...a guess.

    There is no "must be". I believe it is more of a "designed as" or "originally intended for". Similar to where GMRS wasn't designed as a hobby service; but you know how that ended up.

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    The applicable rule in this matter is §95.1733(a)(8) which prohibits any messages which are both conveyed by (any form of) wireline control link (which will include internet connections) and transmitted by a GMRS station.

     

    GMRS was created with the intent of being a short range service not a bunch of interconnected repeaters for worldwide use (that’s the realm of amateur radio, common carrier services, and the internet).

     

    https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-D/part-95/subpart-E/section-95.1733

     

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  11. So let me ask the group about this…
    Using a MURS channel as part of a Crossband system.
    I , I mean “A Friend”  would use 151.xxx on a vehicular repeater (commercially produced for this purpose) which is physically connected to a GMRS base. 
     
    Why on earth would e want to do this?
    Can’t use a UHF HT, Need a base station to work the GMRS repeater I am a part of.  Want to be able to walk around the house (yard, etc) with a VHF HT on .5w and talk.
    This isn’t a Parrot and it’s a repeater but not a MURS repeater  
    The equipment is type-certified  This setup is in practice nationwide in commercial and municipal situations.  So if my example is not “legal” is it “illegal” strictly based on the frequencies being used?
    Thoughts?
     
     


    Not legal. You are cross banding between two entirely different radio services . You can't do that.

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