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I suspect you are correct here. A little dive into RF exposure evaluation and I have concluded… These are things I’m okay not understanding. ?

No. But his observation does raise an interesting question. I see amateur HT radios at 8 watts. Why not that? I certainly don’t profess to know how much is too much or how that is decided or even if there is a correlation between frequency and acceptable wattage next to one’s melon.

Yes I do like it for this also, I like knowing if I am even getting to the repeater from my location. I can appreciate wanting a clean transmission though. As for commercial not using it this makes sense to me. Wouldn’t much of your traffic if not all be going through the repeater? If that’s the case I don’t see the point in it.

Tune in next week when we discuss Volume, how much is too much… can you pass the pretzels please ?

Hey I just came in from doing yard work and it’s 71, sunny and warm, time for a cold one ?

It's literally in the dictionary, combine that with the FCC rules and I think you're good to go.

“Fixed station.” Merriam-Webster.com Dictionary, Merriam-Webster, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fixed station. Accessed 20 Nov. 2022.

I know nothing of this other than the little bit I read but that seems impressive to me. Thanks for sharing real world testing.

What frequencies?

That looks like a great radio. I have been contemplating that radio myself. I like the fact that it can pick up air traffic too. I'm torn between that and the KG-935G. So many people seem to like it. I don't think you can go wrong either way and hope to hear your thoughts once you got it. When I use chirp I'll download from the radio twice so I have an unchanged version should somthing go awry. I think I picked this idea up from one of Notarubicon's videos.

P.S. This is on a Mac. Also I have two of these and my squelch settings are completely different on one from the other. For whatever reason one was more sensitive than the other.

Here is what it looks like in Chirp, Select the "S" under the skip column for any channel you want to skip. I also found it helpful to increase the squelch levels to cut out unwanted noise. your settings may vary from mine. I just played around to find a happy range where I am located. I hope this helps

what he said was And yes if it’s your repeater you can legally prohibit anyone for any reason you want.

I see I got some of that wrong, not enough coffee this morning. I was trying to sort it out before asking if I got it right so not to waste anyones time. No apologies nessasary. I thank you for taking the time and effort to set me straight. I don't think you made this more complex than it needs to be, we can give that credit to the FCC.

Okay I think I finally understand this. Please correct me if I get anything wrong here. let’s say I have a fifty watt mobile radio. I install it at my home with antenna and power. If I use it to communicate from it to a Mobile, HT or another Base Station it’s a “Base Station”. I can’t use it to talk to 467 frequency channels 8 -14 (probably because of the .5 wattage restriction which mobile radios don’t do anyway). Finally if I use it to talk to any of the repeater 467 frequency channels 15 - 22 now my radio is not a “base station” but a “control station” so I am allowed to use these if (and that’s only if) I am talking through a repeater. Otherwise I am not allowed to use it on these channels to talk to 15 -22 aka simplex.

lets see if I get this right... once you do start communicating with other non fixed stations, like mobile or HT now you are no longer a fixed station but a Base Station. The Definition changes and with that you are no longer bound by the 15 watts.

I don't take credit for this, it's directly from Sshannon's down load. "with other fixed stations only". So what it isn't is a base station. You are right about Murs being used for alarms, gate and such (I often hear "Alert Zone one" on Murs from a nursing facility near by), and yes 15 watts may seem high for such a thing. I used that as an example. The definition and the rules for GMRS seem clear though. Granted they don't include an example, it just says what you can and can't do. No more no less. For me that's enough.

I never said you weren't allowed, I said you weren't qualified to comment on if other people understood something or not. I let my frustration get the better of me. For that I am sorry

Well yes actually it does. "It seems" you are unable to understand or refuse to do so, that does not qualify you to comment on what others clearly understand. I managed to learn something thanks to clear explanations by Sshannon and others here. Get a radio, don't get a radio for a base station, use it or don't. I for one won't lose any sleep over it. Good luck.

another way to explain what Sshannon is saying if it makes it easier to grasp, a radio at a gate to a property (a com box if you will) that only communicates (via radio) with a com box in the home on said property. This is a fixed station. At the end of the day it's the same. It's two radios intended to talk only to each other.

Yes! Steve Shannon for the win. Thank sir, thank you.

I’m still new at this but I think what you are experiencing is typical. As I understand it If there is a tone set on the rx side of your programmed repeater channel then you should only hear the repeater on that channel, The rx tone programmed is what keeps you from hearing other transmissions. However you would still hear both repeater and non repeater on the simplex channel. So you are correct that if you hear it on simplex they may not hear you respond on simplex if in fact they are coming through the repeater. I have seen it recommended by some to leave the rx off of the programmed repeater channels ensuring you hear everything. If you are responding through the repeater you would be heard on both. I have responded to a call on simplex only to realize the other party didn’t hear me until I switch over to the repeater channel. For this reason I have adopted saying I’m transmitting through the repeater if I’m initiating the call through one. I hope this helps and I articulated this okay. There are others here that probably could have said this more clearly.

?that’s what I was thinking

I don’t know this radio but if I understand the question wouldn’t this be so it scans for everything regardless of if there’s a tone set on the output of the repeater or not? That is to say that if you’re only scanning repeater channels set with rx tones you’ll be missing transmissions with no tones either from a repeater or not.

As you mention marine HT’s only for use on the water and op mentioned giving some to the kids (ages unknown). As marine HT’s can be expensive and kids likely will want to use also when not on the water this may be something to consider. They do make floating cheep FRS radios though. All that said I think you have a good idea there. I like the thought of having a marine HT out on the water for safety purposes. My father commercial fished and this was required equipment. I don’t know anything about the boundary waters but it seems that would be in use there. Perhaps at least one for the op? Just some thoughts…