tcp2525 Posted yesterday at 01:22 AM Report Posted yesterday at 01:22 AM Even though they don't call it GMRS in Iran this is the perfect situation to offer cheap disposable GMRS radios to the rescue workers to facilitate efficient communications. dosw and gortex2 1 1 Quote
Lscott Posted yesterday at 05:00 AM Report Posted yesterday at 05:00 AM 3 hours ago, tcp2525 said: Even though they don't call it GMRS in Iran this is the perfect situation to offer cheap disposable GMRS radios to the rescue workers to facilitate efficient communications. Without knowing what frequencies are being used locally there I think that would be a dumb idea. There are warnings all the time against taking FRS, same frequencies as GMRS, radios on foreign vacations since the frequencies could be used by local fire, police etc. services. tcp2525, dosw, WRXB215 and 3 others 5 1 Quote
SteveShannon Posted yesterday at 10:51 AM Report Posted yesterday at 10:51 AM 9 hours ago, tcp2525 said: Even though they don't call it GMRS in Iran this is the perfect situation to offer cheap disposable GMRS radios to the rescue workers to facilitate efficient communications. I doubt anyone in Iran would ever accept any wireless devices from any country allied with Israel. WRTC928, marcspaz, tcp2525 and 3 others 3 3 Quote
AdmiralCochrane Posted yesterday at 12:30 PM Report Posted yesterday at 12:30 PM Very true, but they are very friendly with China. Raybestos and SteveShannon 2 Quote
nokones Posted yesterday at 12:43 PM Report Posted yesterday at 12:43 PM Given the present situation, I doubt that the US State Department would ever authorize any such gesture of aid to any country that is hostile to the United States or it's allies. jwilkers, dosw and WRXB215 2 1 Quote
tcp2525 Posted yesterday at 03:11 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 03:11 PM 2 hours ago, AdmiralCochrane said: Very true, but they are very friendly with China. Exactly. They can get bulk discounts, even free Baofeng radios since it's a humanitarian crisis. Quote
tcp2525 Posted yesterday at 03:19 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 03:19 PM 2 hours ago, nokones said: Given the present situation, I doubt that the US State Department would ever authorize any such gesture of aid to any country that is hostile to the United States or it's allies. Humanitarian efforts are just that and should be given without political consideration. It's not the people of the country that is the problem, it's their government. I work with an Iranian and he has told me stories of what goes on over there. Trust me, most people over there really don't believe in what they have to live under. If cheap GMRS radios can help the cause it shouldn't matter which country assists in humanitarian aid. Raybestos 1 Quote
WRUE951 Posted yesterday at 03:44 PM Report Posted yesterday at 03:44 PM 20 minutes ago, tcp2525 said: Humanitarian efforts are just that and should be given without political consideration. It's not the people of the country that is the problem, it's their government. I work with an Iranian and he has told me stories of what goes on over there. Trust me, most people over there really don't believe in what they have to live under. If cheap GMRS radios can help the cause it shouldn't matter which country assists in humanitarian aid. any humanitarian efforts in Iran at this point would be fruitless. Considering their government wont allow any help from the West in that effort, the only hlep they are seeking at this point is further destroy Israel. Humanitarian help will be coming to Iran but its weeks away and only after their leadership is gone... Quote
SteveShannon Posted yesterday at 04:13 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:13 PM 27 minutes ago, WRUE951 said: any humanitarian efforts in Iran at this point would be fruitless. Considering their government wont allow any help from the West in that effort, the only hlep they are seeking at this point is further destroy Israel. Humanitarian help will be coming to Iran but its weeks away and only after their leadership is gone... I doubt that what’s left of their leadership will change. Nor has the U.S. shown an interest in attacking their religious leaders (and they probably shouldn’t). Quote
WRUE951 Posted yesterday at 04:26 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:26 PM 13 minutes ago, SteveShannon said: I doubt that what’s left of their leadership will change. Nor has the U.S. shown an interest in attacking their religious leaders (and they probably shouldn’t). The only hope, and for the people of Iran and their future, is they stand up against their leaders.. Isreal and the United States will help this effort if the people of Iran are serious in demanding this change and their is evidence their leaders are doing bad things to their people. I wouldn't rule out the United States helping the People of Iran taking out their religious leaders.. In fact i would hope we do and only to liberate Iran Quote
SteveShannon Posted yesterday at 04:29 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:29 PM 3 minutes ago, WRUE951 said: The only hope, and for the people of Iran and their future, is they stand up against their leaders.. Isreal and the United States will help this effort if the people of Iran are serious in demanding this change and their is evidence their leaders are doing bad things to their people. I wouldn't rule out the United States helping the People of Iran taking out their religious leaders.. In fact i would hope we do and only to liberate Iran Well, we can hope…. It worked so well in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, etc. Syria was different because the U.S. wasn’t overtly involved. It stands a good chance of succeeding. Raybestos 1 Quote
WRUE951 Posted yesterday at 05:03 PM Report Posted yesterday at 05:03 PM 33 minutes ago, SteveShannon said: Well, we can hope…. It worked so well in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, etc. Syria was different because the U.S. wasn’t overtly involved. It stands a good chance of succeeding. my prayers are with the people of Iran and they are successful in getting their total freedom back they once enjoed. tcp2525 and SteveShannon 1 1 Quote
tcp2525 Posted yesterday at 05:42 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 05:42 PM 1 hour ago, WRUE951 said: The only hope, and for the people of Iran and their future, is they stand up against their leaders.. Isreal and the United States will help this effort if the people of Iran are serious in demanding this change and their is evidence their leaders are doing bad things to their people. I wouldn't rule out the United States helping the People of Iran taking out their religious leaders.. In fact i would hope we do and only to liberate Iran Sadly, the US doesn't have a habit a living up to their word and sticking with the people they claim to support. The botched withdrawal of Afghanistan is a good example as we abandoned the people that risked their lives to help the US. I'm not sure if the Iranian people would trust us now. We might support them at the moment, but the next administration might not and pull out. Quote
WRUE951 Posted yesterday at 05:53 PM Report Posted yesterday at 05:53 PM 9 minutes ago, tcp2525 said: Sadly, the US doesn't have a habit a living up to their word and sticking with the people they claim to support. The botched withdrawal of Afghanistan is a good example as we abandoned the people that risked their lives to help the US. I'm not sure if the Iranian people would trust us now. We might support them at the moment, but the next administration might not and pull out. There is a difference between Americans and "well, i leave it at that" but just remember who caused the botched withdrawal of Afghanistan.. I'm all in for being a true America.. God Bless Quote
tcp2525 Posted yesterday at 06:21 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 06:21 PM 24 minutes ago, WRUE951 said: There is a difference between Americans and "well, i leave it at that" but just remember who caused the botched withdrawal of Afghanistan.. I'm all in for being a true America.. God Bless It really doesn't matter who caused it, it happened and has happened in the past and will continue to happen in the future. We're all true Americans, just with different opinions. I prefer Anytone over Baofeng. Quote
WRUE951 Posted yesterday at 06:29 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:29 PM 5 minutes ago, tcp2525 said: It really doesn't matter who caused it, it happened and has happened in the past and will continue to happen in the future. We're all true Americans, just with different opinions. I prefer Anytone over Baofeng. for right now, and hopefully for a long time in the future, nothing will be allowed to happen in regards to bad calls and terriorist attacks.. I prefer Hytera over Anytone and Baofeng.. And they're all made in C'hina.. Quote
tcp2525 Posted yesterday at 06:37 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 06:37 PM 3 minutes ago, WRUE951 said: for right now, and hopefully for a long time in the future, nothing will be allowed to happen in regards to bad calls and terriorist attacks.. I prefer Hytera over Anytone and Baofeng.. And they're all made in C'hina.. I hope you're right. I think we are on a good trajectory now to solve a problem that should have been solved 40+ years ago. I do hope that the hate and killing in that part of the world stops. I never had Hytera, but quality is dependent on what part of China it is made. The best electronics come from the HungLo province. Quote
WSHH887 Posted yesterday at 08:17 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:17 PM 3 hours ago, SteveShannon said: Well, we can hope…. It worked so well in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, etc. Syria was different because the U.S. wasn’t overtly involved. It stands a good chance of succeeding. In Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam our military had the plans and will to accomplish complete victory. It is, and always has been the civilian leadership, more concerned with reelection than victory, that has snatched victory from us. Many of our leaders have lacked the Warrior Spirit. The last G W Bush seemed to have forgotten what it took to defeat an enemy that had vowed to destroy America. Quote
nokones Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago 7 hours ago, tcp2525 said: Humanitarian efforts are just that and should be given without political consideration. It's not the people of the country that is the problem, it's their government. I work with an Iranian and he has told me stories of what goes on over there. Trust me, most people over there really don't believe in what they have to live under. If cheap GMRS radios can help the cause it shouldn't matter which country assists in humanitarian aid. GMRS freqs are not universal. GMRS freqs in one country could be used for another radio service in another country. For an example, allocated public safety freqs in the US are the same freqs used for business radio services in England. No country in there right mind will send anything that could benefit the political division or military operation of an adversary. Iran may be in the world of hurt for radio communication or they may think any civilian operation could be considered an opposition force, may take away those gifted radios. Humanitarian items of medical and food would be a more appropriate. Electronic devices would never be approved by this country, nor they should be approved. Anyways, regardless of the freqs that could be used for by citizens in Iran, do you really think they would really work? Not a chance in hell they would work with all the electronic jamming going on. SteveShannon 1 Quote
tcp2525 Posted 21 hours ago Author Report Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, nokones said: GMRS freqs are not universal. GMRS freqs in one country could be used for another radio service in another country. For an example, allocated public safety freqs in the US are the same freqs used for business radio services in England. No country in there right mind will send anything that could benefit the political division or military operation of an adversary. Iran may be in the world of hurt for radio communication or they may think any civilian operation could be considered an opposition force, may take away those gifted radios. Humanitarian items of medical and food would be a more appropriate. Electronic devices would never be approved by this country, nor they should be approved. Anyways, regardless of the freqs that could be used for by citizens in Iran, do you really think they would really work? Not a chance in hell they would work with all the electronic jamming going on. I realize that the GMRS frequencies aren't worldwide. All I'm saying is giving these tools to whatever they call their rescue and recovery personnel to use is a bonus. Of course they would have to comply with government regulations. You almost are making it sound like if either one of us went to Iran we wouldn't find any Baofeng radios. Quote
nokones Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, tcp2525 said: You almost are making it sound like if either one of us went to Iran we wouldn't find any Baofeng radios. I won't wish that on anyone. Barf Wang radios need to stay in Pandaland. tcp2525 1 Quote
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