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This isn’t correct… 95.1745. § 95.1751 GMRS station identification. Each GMRS station must be identified by transmission of its FCC-assigned call sign at the end of transmissions and at periodic intervals during transmissions except as provided in paragraph (c) of this section. A unit number may be included after the call sign in the identification. (a) The GMRS station call sign must be transmitted: (1) Following a single transmission or a series of transmissions; and, (2) After 15 minutes and at least once every 15 minutes thereafter during a series of transmissions lasting more than 15 minutes. (b) The call sign must be transmitted using voice in the English language or international Morse code telegraphy using an audible tone. (c) Any GMRS repeater station is not required to transmit station identification if: (1) It retransmits only communications from GMRS stations operating under authority of the individual license under which it operates; and, (2) The GMRS stations whose communications are retransmitted are properly identified in accordance with this section. So if it’s only your immediate family that are using it and they identify under the same call sign then the repeater doesn’t have to ID. Anything else and the repeater is required to identify.

This made me laugh. The child me completely understands that logic. Fun fact, here we use red button to stop machines but in Europe red means the machine is running so danger! and green for off therefore it's safe.

I do use scan groups so I can scan specific things at specific times. This can be real handy if for instance (and yes this has happened) if there are fires near your home and you want to only scan fire agencies. I may choose one local repeater frequency on the bottom and let the top scan GMRS and local Ham repeaters and simplex but mostly I don't do a lot of scanning but it's nice to have the control. My scan groups are typically as follows. Group 1. GMRS. Only Group 2. GMRS and Ham Local channels/frequencies/repeaters. ^^^(This is what I mostly have the top section preset for). Group 3. GMRS, Ham local and non local including out of area repeaters and ham simplex as well as the ISS. Group 4. Local Sheriff, Medical, SAR, Coast Guard, Fire, Park Rangers, Local High School (we've had two lockdowns at the school and they are close so... ) ^^^This would be what my lower section would be preset for. Mostly so if I hear sirens close by I'm set to hear what's up, is there a fire or possibly police with an active shooter at the gas station (this also happened). Group 5. LEO and Medical only. Group 6. USCG - Coast Guard. Group 7. Fire this one is key and is all local fire from two counties as I'm near the line. Group 8. Air Band almost never listen to this but it's in there on the radios that do it. Group 9. Rail Road Local I have about five frequencies in this. Group 10. Rail Road ALL I have somewhere near 150 in there but I'm quite sure there is more to be had, I thought trains were cool as a kid and I guess I still do.

Sounds like we’re getting somewhere. Double check that but if you are seeing 462.700 and not 467.700 when pressing the PTT then you are transmitting on simplex, not the repeater input. The repeater channels are 23-30, 30-38 and so on. If you have changed their locations on a GMRS radio like the 935 it’s possible that it might not transmit on the correct frequency but rather the simplex frequency. I haven’t tried moving them from their natural order. If what you are saying is correct and you are seeing 462.700, that’s what’s happening and is the problem. You will likely have to put things back in order. edit: A factory reset would certainly put things back with the repeater frequencies back where they were intended. I guess it all depends on how much you have programmed in the radio and what’s the most straightforward approach to putting things back in. I use Chirp and it allows the ability of cut and pasting which is great because like you I keep my radios mostly programmed the same so the same stuff is in the same locations and I can transfer from one radio to the next. Good luck I hope this is the fix you need.

More on talk around. If ‘talk around’ is engaged you will see an ‘R’ on your screen to the right of the W+. This can be engaged or disabled by one of the side buttons or a quick tap of the scan button. When you press the PTT it should show you on the screen what frequency you are transmitting on if you select frequency mode for that channel. Press mode three times to get there from channel name. I hope some of this info helps you out.

They look the same so a couple thoughts on what to check for… What location (channel number) are you programmed into? What’s your squelch setting? Could it be preventing the radio to open on receive? Are you using the factory GMRS tuned antenna? Any change if you swap antennas? If you transmit on simplex (channel 17) can you hear and be heard on another radio? Make sure they have some space (50’) between so they don’t desense each other. I’m not sure what’s happening but there’s some ideas of what to check. edit: one other thought, do you accidentally have talk around engaged? This would cause you to transmit on the receiving frequency and would prevent opening the repeater.

Why are you here? We all already know what an A-hole is, there is no need to keep giving us an example. Shouldn't you be busy talking to all your friends on a repeater 200 miles away.

Good news for those of us who have been waiting. I think the title about says it. Cheers and a thank you to Mel Terechenok at Chirp.

RPT-17 aka Ch-25 is correct. I would recommend following the instructions for channel Wizard, this makes it incredibly easy. Page 90 with step by step instructions beginning on page 92. you can also set up in Chirp. oh yeah socal never has anything nice to say to anyone so feel free to ignore him.

If by bad habit you mean announcing your call sign at the beginning, I think that is fairly common and I wouldn’t consider it a bad habit. Rather when conversing with family or friends I would say you shouldn’t feel obligated. I like to think GMRS is a little less uptight. I wouldn’t give you a hard time either way.

This ^^^ keep it simple I think is the essence of GMRS.

Correct.

To some extent yes but you are less likely to do so if you are in the same area than across the continent, at least locally you can and are supposed to check for local traffic before keying up.

Very nice job. I absolutely agree though, I would probably loose this radio and contribute to the unlicensed use of GMRS by woodland creatures

I’m not sure what you’re responding to in my post @WSFL951… my comments were specifically as to why I feel @CogentRadios “Imagine Nationwide or International Coverage of your GMRS Repeater, Legally!” is not supported by the rules or practicality of GMRS in my opinion (which happens to be that of the FCC). I’m confused as to the screen shot of Facebook pages about GMRS while quoting me.

If you can do one you can do the other. Do you realize you won’t be able to make sure you aren’t transmitting over the top of someone that is using simplex? Just because you put a repeater on a frequency doesn’t make that frequency yours. GMRS doesn’t have the amount of channels/frequencies that Amateur Radio has, nor does it have the coordination that makes such things possible. Want coms for a community nation wide, use a group text or Facebook neighborhood group page.

I got some catching up to do... Welcome @CaptainSarcastic, @FishinGary and @jjlava! Cheers

This makes sense. Thanks for the tip. It surprises me I never considered this as my father used to commercial fish.

So if I understand this you are using the MN360 (not type accepted for GMRS, part 95) to transmit to the repeater. Well I think in the end you will find you are wrong but you have been cordial in making your case for what has been kind of a hot topic here in the past. I look forward to seeing what the FCC has to say in response.

The bridge that is accessing the repeater is what I was referring to. You had said it was FM I believe. Did I misunderstand that?

Thanks. Seriously, you too. This was fun, looking at an old debate with a new twist. I do have a question though. The means to which you are communicating to the repeater, is it type accepted?

Go back and read the entire post where I quoted the FCC that you said you agreed to. You are selectively choosing to only address what you want while missing the intent of GMRS. Respectfully, I for one disagree that having POC would be very cool on GMRS. I’m pretty sure the FCC clarified their position and intent. On this I happen to agree with them. I respect your position to disagree but I see no point in a lengthy back and forth. You are just trying to find a spot in the fence that you don’t see a no trespassing sign to get to the other side while knowing you don’t belong there.

Oh but you are, It’s in your own thread title what you’re selling, and that’s not local communication. You were right about one thing and that was the horse is dead. This has been hashed out here before. It’s just the first time I know where the idea was coming from a sales pitch.

I think the FCC said it best… In addition to violating Commission rules, linking repeaters is not in the public interest. Because GMRS spectrum is limited and used on a shared “commons” basis, the service only works well on a localized basis when users can hear each other and cooperate in the sharing of channels. Linking repeaters not only increases the potential for interference, but also uses up a limited spectrum resource over much larger areas than intended, limiting localized availability of the repeater channels. GMRS and the Family Radio Service (FRS), which share many of the GMRS channels, are intended for individuals such as family members and friends, scouting troops, emergency response groups, and hobbyists to communicate with each other over short distances, directly or through a repeater station. Linking repeaters, via the internet or other networks, undermines the purpose and usefulness of the GMRS and FRS.

You're still connecting over the internet, and for the purpose of carrying voice. Yes, this ^^^ Others have tried the tactic of ignoring the FCC for profit and paid the fine. The "illegal marketing" by Rugged Radios back in 2020 comes to mind. They don't do that anymore. I expect there are others. The risk you may well find is yours.