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23 hours ago, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:
...how does Wouxun compare to Motorola, Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood, Alinco, or Anytone? Where do they rank as far as QUALITY goes as a company overall?
2 hours ago, CyborgAlienWRYG738 said:I have to disagree with your opening comment. There's very good reason to compare a Honda Civic to a Bugatti Venron or whatever, yes, ones a luxury class vehicle, the other is a economy class, both are vehicles that get you to point b from point a and it's all in point of view as to which is the better vehicle. That being said, I knew this coming in, it wasn't my query.
I'm not looking for what category units are in, I want to know about their quality. Just because that Honda Civic is cheaper, than that Bugatti Venron, doesn't make it a bad car, it just makes it less expensive to own.
Look at the question you asked... you 100% asked for opinions about quality. Based on the second post I quoted, if you really felt that way, you would just buy the BTech or whatever budget radio and not waste time asking the question. There is a reason 1 car cost thousands and the other cost millions, the same reason why some radios cost hundreds while others cost thousands. You can call it category, class, quality, whatever. It's the same question.
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Man, Moto is not even close to the same category as any of those radios. You are comparing radios that were $3,000 to $5,000 new, to radios that are $150 to $500 new. That is like comparing a an economy Honda to Bugatti.
I am very fond of Wouxun, especially the KG-1000G. The brand stacks up very well when compared to Yaesu, but I think Yeasu makes a better radio with many more available features. I would put Wouxun on par with Icom, Kenwood, Alinco.
I don't consider Anytone, Powerwerx or TYT in the same category of any of the aforementioned brands. They are really budget brand radios. I don't look down on them, but they just won't have the same longevity, features, durability, stability or performance as the higher tier brands.
Also, I a assuming you are either asking for use an amateur bands or just general speaking. Moto is the only brand mentioned that has models that have the ability to be legally used in GMRS. All the other brands are good for amateur bands, and some will have LMR/business options, too.
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As long as no one quotes the people on the ignore list, it's like they don't exist. It can be a pleasant change.
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Yes, you can use voice almost everywhere. Most of the spectrum is for voice use. In 9 of the bands available, you can use voice, data and Morse Code / CW through the entire band.
HF radio is amazing for long range communications. With general class privileges, you will be able to talk around the globe, day or night.
The main reason I got into it was for emergency communications. I figure if there is a problem here, and help is needed, calling a station outside the impacted area is the best bet.
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17 minutes ago, WRUU653 said:
Well I just got around to checking this out @marcspaz... Very nice sir, well done and a generous share. You really put to gether a great presentation top to bottom.
Very, very kind of you. Much appreciated
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23 minutes ago, Blaise said:
Hey man, that's awesome!
I like how you used those line of sight/repeater graphics. They're a lot better than the ones I had in the prototype materials I shared...
Would you be sad if I stole/redistributed/adapted some of your work for the presentation I'm trying to set up? You clearly are better at this than I am!
LOL... thanks for the kudos! That's awesome. Feel free to use what you like. I am flattered its good enough that you want to use them. If you want the PPT instead of the PPS, so its easier to pull material, just shoot me a message.
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@WRWE456 thank you for the kind words. Much appreciated!
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Hey folks, a few months back, I discussed providing a presentation on the introduction to GMRS, to just cover the basics. We held the presentation a couple of weeks ago and I wanted to share the video with everyone.
Fair warning, I'm not a pro YouTuber and my collar mic dropped with a few minutes left... please be gentle. LoL
This is geared towards people with little to no experience. Hopefully it helps some people.
The PowerPoint presentation is available for download, here...
https://marcspaz.com/gmrs/GMRS101.ppsx
Thank you to those who helped with content ideas.
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One of my favorite quotes...
"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King."
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1 hour ago, bbrad1775 said:
I'm thinking about switching to this combo. Shouldn't need an adapter fir the mount.
Midland – MXTA24 Low Profile Antenna Cable with NMO Connector – CB Antenna Cable Extension – 6 Meters (19 ft) with Removable UHF Connection https://a.co/d/chaGRps
NMO Fender Mount Antenna Bracket JK https://a.co/d/clQoU5F
That would be a better choice.
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4 hours ago, bbrad1775 said:
So if I get that NMO adapter mount I just need a standard SO-239 cable and the adapter for the radio and to drill out the mount itself. Then run a ground strap and its all good.
I saw this mount but at triple the price I figured I would just drill out the other mount.
Yes, but be sure the bracket is big enough that you can drill it.
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I'm not positive, but I don't think the mount you shared will work 'out of the box' with a UHF connector, which is what you need for the Diamond antenna you mention. You may have to modify it to work. If you are handy with tools and have a drill, you should be fine. I have used Diamond and Comet lip mounts on the swing gate, too. You may want to look and see what they have, and get a proper mount for the antenna selection you make, rather than a CB antenna mount. If you do get a lip mount, be sure the mount doesn't have a stabilizing tab sticking out or you can destroy the back window.
Also, that is Diamond way too much antenna for you. It's a wonderful antenna and performance is amazing, but I use it because I have several radios sharing that antenna, of which all but my GMRS radio are way over 100w out... one being 315w. I agree with Randy on a lot of what he mentioned, including going with the MXTA26. I also have the same UHF to NMO adapter that he linked and it works well.
If you get an NMO antenna and use the adapter on your UHF mount, be sure to set the jam nut correctly and use anti-seize to be sure the NMO disc doesn't unscrew with the antenna on removal. It can be a massive pain in the six to get out.
I have had a bunch of antennas installed on the swing gate over the years. Follow the grounding advice and you should be fine.
- AdmiralCochrane, WRUU653 and StogieVol
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39 minutes ago, foamhand said:
...now illegal Anytone 588 UHF only radio.
What am I missing? Illegal how?
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Man... what a joke. If the FCC doesn't spank someone for that, I will lose all respect for that agency. I think it's wild that here in Norther VA, we have people complaining because they think someone ID'ed in 16 minutes instead of 15 minutes, meanwhile in Castle Rock it's a free-for-all. It's even in the title. SMH.
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Event by Marc Spaziano and NOVA GMRS
American Legion Riders Post 176 Springfield, VA
Group · Members of NOVA GMRS
Hey folks... a little last minute and long overdue, lets meet up for Brunch at the American Legion Post 176 in Springfield. They have a large lot and the cafeteria is open to the public. Our friend Walter is a member at another post and has invited us to join for a group get-together.
I apologize for the last-minute invite. Hope you all can make it!
American Legion Post 176
6520 Amherst Ave, Springfield, VA 22150
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3 hours ago, back4more70 said:
Where can I find these? They sound great for search and rescue use or event communications.
That'd typically what I use mine for. They are available from Ham Radio Outlet, DX Engineering, and companies like them. Common brands are Yaesu, iCom, Anytone, etc.
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6 hours ago, Tiercel said:
Don't take this wrong. I am not knocking Ham. I am just not seeing an answer for the advantages of a Ham HT or mobile over a GMRS HT and mobile.
The problem is, an advantage or disadvantage is a matter of perception based on what you want to accomplish. I can point out differences that push me in one direction or another. This is just really high view... and just the stuff I use. I am very sure there is more.
In Ham bands:
Max power is 1,500 Watts.
There is a frequency space equivalent of 1,200 channels.
Any mode of digital voice.
Any mode of digital data (no encryption).
Automatic Packet Reporting System (APRS) global positioning, messaging and more.
50w portable/mobile repeaters for under $300.
Crossband repeat support.
One radio will cover some of MF, all of HF, 6 meter VHF, 2 meter VHF, 70 cm UHF, all modes, at 100w for $1,000.
Much more repeater coverage, including on HF and state-wide networks in many states.
A much wider selection of hardware, including the option to build your own gear.
Experimentation is encouraged.
In GMRS:
Much quieter / less users.
Repeaters are available.
Ease of licensing.
Shared Licensing.
Extremely affordable radios (as little as $9 each)
6 hours ago, Tiercel said:It sounds like it would take several Ham HTs just to cover the VHF and UHF bands.
Not at all. I have several handheld radios for redundancy (EmComm), but all of them cover everything from air traffic, MURS, VHF Business band, Marine, Amater 2m VHF, Amateur 70cm UHF, Business band UHF, GMRS/FRS and more.
6 hours ago, Tiercel said:Also, I don't think I get the value of "more frequencies to explore if they are all relatively short distances, high-frequency bands residing fairly close to GMRS frequencies and behaving in much the same way.
As I mentioned, in populated areas, with the option of the equivalent 1,200 channels compared to GMRS' only having 22 channels, you can always find a clear frequency to talk, send data, or whatever you plan on doing. And did I mention 1,500 watts on Ham for the opportunity to talk way further than you ever could with GMRS?
6 hours ago, Tiercel said:I get the added attraction of the HF section, which acts like an entirely different animal. I would not consider it much of a benefit if GMRS suddenly had twice as many channels that all do the same thing as the other channels in that band, so maybe I am missing something.
HF gives you the option of communicating from 0 to 12,450 miles with just a few watts. If people go in the habit of it, there would be almost no practical reason to use anything but HF, beyond the data speed advantages of VHF and UHF on digital applications.
6 hours ago, Tiercel said:From the outside looking in, it seems that amateur radio's two biggest attractions, other than CW code, are:
1. Long distant connections with exotic places over HF
2. Clear VHF and UHF communications without needing a large antenna, much like GMRS. It seems the number of frequencies in those bands is not too relevant unless they all tend to be busy. It is my understanding that they are not very busy.You can do CW on GMRS. It is an authorized mode. I don't know anyone who does it because its considered a weak signal application.
I did list a few more advantages above.
I'm not sure what you consider a large antenna, but I have a 4 foot tunable HF antenna and I have talked to people in every state in the US as well as 102 other countries. Granted, a 7 inch antenna is definitely shorter than 4 feet, but 4 feet is hardly a hateful size.
6 hours ago, Tiercel said:Am I missing something? If all your friends moved to GMRS, would you be satisfied with GMRS, and if not, specifically, why not?
All of my radio friends are on GMRS, but that doesn't mean anything. An overwhelming majority of my radio friends are also into amateur radio because GMRS just can't offer everything that we want to do. We all do a lot of digital data and voice (such as email and computer networking over RF), EmComm support requiring much more power and portable repeaters, as well as the ability to talk long distance (like outside of the area if affected by natural disaster) without relying on anything but someone else with a radio on the other end... and much more.
6 hours ago, Tiercel said:In response to WRXB215, I will likely NEVER buy a Ham base. I will get a Ham HT and a mobile that I will probably use as a base and mobile. It seems to me that there is no real power difference between Ham and GMRS in HTs (4-8 watts and Mobile units (50 watts). So, power is not a consideration.
Honestly, I have a nice HF base station, massive amp and antenna. Same for UHF and VHF. I hardly ever turn them on. Most of my HF, VHF and UHF use is from the mobile. However, having the base station is nice if I do need to do EmComm or just don't feel like sitting in my truck to run a radio.
I guess, the bottom line is, don't feel like you are missing something if you don't have a base station. You're not.
One of the biggest things I love about Ham radio is, I can make my handheld seem like its a lot stronger that 5 or 8 watts. I have a mobile repeater installed in my Jeep. I don't need to have a ton of power in my handheld, because my portable/mobile repeater will transmit my handheld signal at whatever power I want, up to 1,500 watts. So, my HT never has to talk any further than wherever I parked my Jeep.
As far as mobile power goes, 50w is kind of the standard, but it's not the limit. I have a collection of radios with all different output levels... 35w, 50w, 65w, 85w, 120w. I also have 200w and 300w amps... and 1,500w amps are available.
6 hours ago, Tiercel said:I am also totally lost on digital. What makes it appealing? Is it mostly voice communication or control over lans/wans?
There is no limit to digital. You can do voice, data like emails, video, file transfer, GPS, messaging, even things like chat consoles... you are limited by nothing but your imagination. The big draw about digital in general is, many digital services are called "weak signal services". Basically, what this means is, if you are on a frequency that zero voice can be heard... the digital connection can still be made on the exact same frequency and power level. So, in an emergency or extreme boredom, you are going to get you communications accomplished.
I hope this help provide some insight.
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First, depending on how much real estate you have in your vehicle or home, I always recommend having it all.l I have HF, Ham VHF/UHF, and GMRS in my home and in my Jeep.
Don't think of it as better or worse. Just different. What differences serve a purpose for you at any given moment is the right answer.
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The ducting is happening in the morning and in the evening as temperatures swing greatly in a short period of time. 10m is on fire basically from around 9am to around 6pm
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3 hours ago, WRYS709 said:
Are you all discussion GMRS, or Ham bands (yes, I realize that 10 meters is Ham).
What times of day?
Definitely GMRS... I have been hearing stations/repeaters from PA, DE, even NC, all in Northern Virginia.
That said, 10m has been fire this week, too.
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@WRYZ926 yeah, I usually work central and south America extremely well, but I seem to be able to work Australia, New Zealand and South Africa better than Asia. I work western Europe like I'm making a phone call. I only need 5w in the mobile or in the house.
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Well, I was fortunate enough to have someone able to answer the question for me.
Huge Thank You to Shitao "Ken" Zhou for helping me (and others, I'm sure) understand what this function is for. This is why I love the radio community.
Link to original post from Ken...
Content from his thread...
Hi, BA7NFW here.
Background infomation
When I searched for "No-communication squelch" function, which you can find on most yaesu radios, I came across this post ('cause it shows up on google).
Basically we can't make this function work, not even have an idea why this function exists when TONE Reversed mode already works fine.
I had the same confusion, and the question wasl unresolved. (btw, can someone post under that question just to tell Marc I have an answer now? I'm not living in FCC regulated territory and don't have a GMRS call sign, hence not able to register here)
tl;dr PR Frequency function is used for the Japanese railway radio repeaters.
From the FT5DR/FT5DE Advance Manual, PR FREQ is a frequency of 300-3000Hz used for Reverse CTCSS Decoder:
User Programmed Reverse CTCSS Decoder The tone signal frequency can be set at 100 Hz intervals between 300 Hz and 3000 Hz to mute the audio when receiving a signal containing a CTCSS tone matching the programmed tone.
So it's natural to think, PR FREQ = user Programmed Reverse ctcss decoder FREQuency.
And that's the tricky part. Took me about half-day researching until I checked the Japanese version of the manual.
So, PR here actually means Private Railway(私鉄).
The Japanese Railway (JR) and other railway companies (PR) use a system of radio repeaters. When the repeater is standby and no one is using it, it keeps sending a monotone of 2280Hz (for JR, PR may use other tone between 300-3000Hz) to represent that status. If not specially handled, this may keeps your squelch opened.
And that makes sense, this function will cancel a certain tone carried in FM mode, and it's not a standard CTCSS tone signal, therefore a separate function was implemented.
I highly suspect if this function is actually useful outside Japan. And the terrible translated manual just makes everything more confusing.
That's all.
Ken (BA7NFW)
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How does Wouxun compare to Motorola, Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood, Alinco, or Anytone, Powerwerx and TYT?
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Okay, car analogies aside for a bit, I think I get where you are coming from on the radio front.
On the commercial side, I have almost zero experience with anything civilians can buy for private use, except for owning 4 Moto mobiles. That said, in my opinion commercial gear (like from Moto and assuming Kenwood based on other experience) will absolutely be a much better quality radio than non-commercial radios, such as radios designed for GMRS or Amateur use.
Typical Commercial Radios Pros:
There is no such thing as a commercial radio not being able to do what a purpose built GMRS or Amateur radio can do. You just need to purchase a model that will do what you want it to do. There are plenty things that commercial radios can do that non-commercial / private use radios can do, such as encryption, multiple heads, multiple mics, high volume ambient noise reduction on transmit, for some examples.
As for as longevity of non-commercial radios go, we are in a disposable world. New non-commercial radios simply don't work as well or last as long as commercial radios. Once you abandon the commercial v. private/amateur gear categories, pretty much all non-commercial gear is the same. Just a question on if the price and features are there for you.
Everything else is going to be opinion, anecdotal, and personal preference.
I have noticed that, too. New troll technique?