WyoJoe

If you don't have a chart for DPL, then you probably have one for DCS (digital coded squelch). These are different names for the same thing.
The other type of codes you will commonly see are CTCSS codes, which usually include a format of xxx.x rather than xxx (for DCS/DPL).

What's the point of that? If I wanted the radio for the ham bands, I'd just use a UV-5R instead. Most of them, or at least the older ones, will work on ham and GMRS frequencies, and they cost less too.
The UV-5X/UV-5G models are GMRS radios and already function reasonably well for what they are. Additionally, if you want to monitor ham frequencies, you can already do that with them.
As I understand it, a GMRS radio that has been modified to work on another service is no longer legal for GMRS use, so why would I want to mess up a radio I purchased specifically because it is legal for GMRS? Again, if legality didn't matter, the UV-5R would suffice.
Michael, these questions aren't targeted at you. I just don't understand the reasoning behind this effort.

In that situation, I have extra radios to share with my family, friends, and neighbors. They are a mix of FRS, GMRS, and ham radios.

For those that would like to know how to calculate the wavelength, a simple way find it is to divide 300 by the frequency (in MHz) being used. The result is the wavelength in meters.
For example, what is commonly called the "2 meter" ham band can be determined by dividing 300 by 146 (the middle of the band), with the result of 2.05 meters, which is pretty close to 2 meters, hence the name. Another example is for the "70 cm" ham band, 300 divided by 430 (MHz) is .697, which rounds nicely to .7 meters, or 70 cm. A quarter wavelength at this frequency would be 70 cm / 4, which equals 17.5 cm, or approximately 7 inches.
At the GMRS frequency of ~465 MHz. (roughly the mid-point of the band when accounting for repeater use) the wavelength is .645 meters. A quarter wavelength at this frequency would be just over 16 cm, or about 6 3/8 inches.
If you know the wavelength, you can also calculate the frequency in a similar manner. Simply divide 300 by the wavelength (in meters) to find the approximate frequency. For example, for the 20 meter ham band this would be 300 / 20, or approximately 15 MHz. The actual band is in the 14 MHz range, but this formula will get you close.
The other way to think about it is that the frequency in MHz, multiplied by the wavelength in meters, should equal something close to 300.

My post was a play on a certain YouTube host's pronunciation of the name, but thank you for the clarification.

I bought the UV88 for ham use (mostly monitoring), since I already had the GM-30 for GMRS use. I liked the idea of having interchangeable batteries, and I wanted the drop-in charger, too, since it's very easy to use to charge my radios and spare batteries. Initially, I wasn't sure if the batteries were interchangeable, or if the drop-in charger would work for the GM-30, so another part of the reason for buying the UV88 was to satisfy my curiosity about these things. That way I would know, and could share that information with others.

The 778 is marketed as a dual-band ham radio, so it has 2m and 70cm capabilities from the start. It is not type accepted for GMRS to the best of my knowledge.
On the 779, it is marketed, and type accepted, as a GMRS radio, and the factory default is that it only transmits on GMRS frequencies. It can be reconfigured to a dual-band ham configuration, which also allows it to transmit on GMRS and MURS frequencies, although using it in this way may violate FCC regulations. I believe there is a stipulation in the regulations that says a GMRS radio cannot work on other services like the amateur radio service.

The GM-30 has an SMA-F fitting on the radio, which requires an antenna with an SMA-M connection. The NA-771G from Buy Two Way Radios is available in both SMA configurations, plus BNC, and is specifically tuned for GMRS frequencies. Most Baofeng radios require antennas with the SMA-F connection, so if you order something different that doesn't specify the connector, it probably won't work on the GM-30.
There is also a shorter NA-701G antenna you can buy, but some reviewers have said it doesn't work much better than the stock antenna. I haven't tried it, so I can't comment on that aspect of it from my own experience. It has the advantage (as does the stock antenna) of being less intrusive than the 771G due to its shorter length.
If you're going to use the radio in a vehicle, I'd recommend a magnet-mount (or permanent mount) external antenna for better performance. Even a cheap, but properly tuned, mag mount will improve performance substantially over using a whip attached to the radio inside the vehicle.

The GM-30 has an SMA-F fitting on the radio, which requires an antenna with an SMA-M connection. The NA-771G from Buy Two Way Radios is available in both SMA configurations, plus BNC, and is specifically tuned for GMRS frequencies. Most Baofeng radios require antennas with the SMA-F connection, so if you order something different that doesn't specify the connector, it probably won't work on the GM-30.
There is also a shorter NA-701G antenna you can buy, but some reviewers have said it doesn't work much better than the stock antenna. I haven't tried it, so I can't comment on that aspect of it from my own experience. It has the advantage (as does the stock antenna) of being less intrusive than the 771G due to its shorter length.
If you're going to use the radio in a vehicle, I'd recommend a magnet-mount (or permanent mount) external antenna for better performance. Even a cheap, but properly tuned, mag mount will improve performance substantially over using a whip attached to the radio inside the vehicle.

I think my first "GMRS" HT was an FRS/GMRS combination radio marketed by Cobra.
Since then, I've acquired many radios, and still use several different ones regularly.
For most day to day usage, though, I grab either the Radioddity GM-30 or the Tidradio TD-H5. (They are both essentially the same radio).
They just seem to be easy to use, easy to carry, easily configured, and they work pretty well for my needs.

Before you opt for the V1, take a look at the Baofeng UV-9G, Tidradio TD-H5 / Pofung P15UV / Radioddity GM-30
 (all three are basically the same radio), Retevis GMRS handheld radios (they have several models at <$50), and the Wouxon GMRS handheld radios.
I believe the V1 has lower power output, but costs more than the others (except the Wouxons).
For a mobile/base rig, there are some other options that cost less than the 50x1. The Anytone AT-779UV (also sold by Retevis and Radioddity) is selling on Amazon for about $100 currently. It's rated at 20W nominal, but also allows programming of additional repeater channels. It's a pretty decent radio that competes with Midland radios in this price range, but pretty much distances itself from the Midland mobile radios with a much wider feature set.
Another mobile you might want to consider is the Wouxon KG-XS20G. It's a little more than twice the price of the Anytone, but a bit less than the BTech (last I checked at least). It's received some good feedback from those that have used it.

You should be able to update the firmware to correct that problem. On the GM-30 radio, it was the same for me when I got it, but with a firmware update, I can program multiple repeaters with different tones/codes that are on the same repeater frequency.
For the GM-30, I downloaded the firmware updates from the Radioddity website. If you can't find the Pofung software, I'd be willing to be the Radioddity GM-30 software would work on the P15UV. It works on the Tidradio TD-H5, which is another nearly identical radio.

Ham (amateur) and GMRS are two different radio services, as defined by the FCC, so you would need a separate license for each in order to legally transmit on both services. Of course you can monitor (listen) all you want without any need for a license.

With the 15" antenna, clipping the radio on a belt can be a bit of a nuisance. The antenna seems to be in the way a lot. That's not the case so much with the shorter antennas.
If you're putting the radio in, or clipping it to, a backpack, that's not much of an issue. I would recommend considering how you'll use it to help you make your choice.
Another consideration is if you're using the radio in a vehicle, you might want to get a magnetic mount UHF 450 - 470 MHz antenna with the appropriate adapter for the radio. With that and a "speaker mic" plugged in, you can clip the radio to something in the vehicle cabin and use the radio as a mobile unit.

Not quite. Channels 1-22 are referred to as simplex; you transmit and receive on the same frequency (462.725 is ch 22). 23-30 are duplex channels, where the transmit frequency is different than the receive; this is to work with repeaters, which have to retransmit on a different frequency they receive so they can retransmit in realtime.
On the duplex channels (23-30), you radio transmits 5 mhz higher than it receives; the receive frequencies are the same as the simplex 15-22. Rept22 is 462.725 receive, but 467.725 transmit, and a repeater on that channel would be listening on 467.725, and retransmit the audio on 462.725 (where you're receiving).
Because of how the radios are set up (and locked down), trying to talk direct radio to radio on the repeater channels isn't going to work;it's designed for bouncing the signal via repeater.

With the 15" antenna, clipping the radio on a belt can be a bit of a nuisance. The antenna seems to be in the way a lot. That's not the case so much with the shorter antennas.
If you're putting the radio in, or clipping it to, a backpack, that's not much of an issue. I would recommend considering how you'll use it to help you make your choice.
Another consideration is if you're using the radio in a vehicle, you might want to get a magnetic mount UHF 450 - 470 MHz antenna with the appropriate adapter for the radio. With that and a "speaker mic" plugged in, you can clip the radio to something in the vehicle cabin and use the radio as a mobile unit.

I'll second that. I expect the issue is the programming cable, and not the radio. As a Linux user, I haven't had issues with the programming cable, but for those using Windows, there are often issues, particularly with the Prolific (or knockoff) chips. This is a common issue, and pretty well documented on the web.
Here is one page that describes many of the solutions to driver issues for common programming cable chipsets:
https://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php

I'll second that. I expect the issue is the programming cable, and not the radio. As a Linux user, I haven't had issues with the programming cable, but for those using Windows, there are often issues, particularly with the Prolific (or knockoff) chips. This is a common issue, and pretty well documented on the web.
Here is one page that describes many of the solutions to driver issues for common programming cable chipsets:
https://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php

To be clear I said ‘I look at it this way’, intending to clarify how I personally interpret and put the rules into practice. But let me explain how I get there.

First, I believe most would agree the FCC is pretty clear that GMRS licenses are granted to individuals. I also believe it is equally clear that immediate family members may operate under that individual’s license (the operative word here being “may”).

Article § 95.1705 of the regulations uses the term ‘may’ many times. Upon reading, one will see it that ‘may’ in is referring to discretionary permission of the licensee, such as “Any individual who holds an individual license may allow his or her immediate family members to operate his or her GMRS station or stations. “. Upon further reading one will see the FCC identifies who the licensee may grant (by extension) to use their station(s). In other words, 95.1705 clarifies who the licensee is permitted to grant permission too. In practical terms and by example this means that, in part, I can grant permission to my son or daughter to use my license if I choose, but I am not obligated to. If one child is responsible and the other is not, I might not choose to grant it.

The next part is the use of the ‘station’. A station is the apparatus necessary for transmitting (aka ‘operating’). In its simplest definition this is a transmitter. Each transmitter is a station. In its most popular form, a handheld portable transceiver is a form of ‘station’. If I purchase a twin pack of GMRS radios I have purchased two stations. Again, in 95.1705 it states “Individual licensee responsibility. The holder of an individual license to operate GMRS stations is responsible at all times for the proper operation of the stations in compliance with all applicable rules in this part. “ and “The licensee must maintain access to and control over all stations authorized under its license. “

So, if a licensee purchases, and thus owns, four (4) handheld transceivers they may grant permission to select (or all) family members to operate those four stations, so long as the licensee has access to and can exercise control over those stations. This is easy to do when the family members live with them and or are attending an event in which the licensee is also present. Not so easy to do in the licensee is in New York and the radio is in California.

Further, I have zero authority to give permission to anyone to use your station equipment. Only you have the authority to do that. In a similar way, I have no authority to give my children permission to use station equipment that is owned by their aunt or uncle, nor can I grant permission to their aunt and uncle to use the transceivers they have purchased on their own. They are not mine to grant permission to.

Bottom line, I can grant permission to use only stations I own and have control over, nothing more.

Here is link to complete 95.1705 text for any that care to read it.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/95.1705

Hope this provides some clarification.


Michael
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I had to go back through this thread to see how we veered so far off the original topic. It was a theory about the FCC needing to make the changes in their antiquated computer system... in order to effect the price changes.

Membership for this group is attained through the Front Range GMRS website, which is linked right below where it says "Click Here for Access" on the repeater's info page.
It's quick and easy to join. Just submit your email address and create a password, then when you submit your info, they'll send a reply showing where to enter your GMRS license number, and that completes the membership/registration process. I just did it, so I could use the network when I'm in the area (typically once or twice a year), and it only took about two minutes.
The Front Range GMRS group maintains six repeaters from southeast Wyoming to southeast Colorado, with coverage extending across much of that area, and even into northern New Mexico.

I'm sure many agree...
Thanks to the folks who make myGMRS.com tick.  This include creators, admins, and forum repliers/readers.  myGMRS.com is an enjoyable, good GMRS resource.

To think you can do that and a lot more with just a Raspberry Pi these days!

I agree with the post from mrgrms above.
I have found Randy's YouTube channel to be the primary channel I go to for all things GMRS, and his off-roading content is pretty good, too.
Most of the off-roading content is SoCal related, so if you're in Southern California, and looking for this type of thing, I'd recommend checking it out.
Of course, the main reason I've visited his channel is for the informative, yet humorous, content related to GMRS radios and radio usage. He explains things in a way that it should be easy to understand for beginners, yet informative enough that more advanced users would appreciate it too.

Though I've mentioned this as a side item in various posts, I wanted to take the time to create a specific post to spotlight my favorite youtube channel for GMRS info, including equipment.
I'm speaking of NotaRubicon Productions.
The owner of that channel is a down to earth guy by the name of Randy.  His channel has good things going for it:
  + Good Production.  Good lighting.  Good mics.  A sense of humor.  A born-to-do-this delivery ability.  Aspiring YT channel stars, take note.
  + Good Information.  The good production attributes mentioned above can help bring people into a channel and make them want to return.  But that is not enough.  There has to be relevant information delivered to the point.  Randy does this.
It's obvious that manufacturers are aware of him and the fact that he is an influencer.  When Randy gives a thumbs up for a radio model, buyers snap them up.  When he mentions problems with newly introduced radios, manufacturer's fix them fast.
I have no connection with Randy or his YT channel.  Just wanted to share a good GMRS youtube channel for those interested.