nokones Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 4 hours ago, OffRoaderX said: It seems like you may be out of touch with what normal people want. That is extremely possible for me at my age. OffRoaderX 1 Quote
WRYZ926 Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, nokones said: That is extremely possible for me at my age. So you are admitting to being an old curmudgeon? Just kidding with you. Quote
Raybestos Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, WRYZ926 said: Here is an excerpt from the Missouri law. While they do not specifically mention GMRS, they do state that amateur radio and CB is exempt. One could argue that if CB and amateur radios are exempt then so is GMRS. Now I sure would not trie to program a radio while driving. Here is the link for the actual state statute: https://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=304.822 These laws are getting ridiculous. I get the "no texting" laws but requiring no touching of a cell phone are silly. Not everyone can afford a brand new vehicle with blue tooth sound connection and built-in GPS. GMRS, before they called it GMRS was Class A Citizens Band. One of the Federal Highway agencies is currently blackmailing states into passing these laws, or lose Federal Funding. This is likely un-Constitutional, but has been happening for decades to force states to knuckle under to their will. Years ago, I was listening to Coast To Coast AM one night. I forget who the guest was, but he was talking about this trick they have used to force states to pass seatbelt laws, DUI enhancements, and other unpopular laws in the name of "safety". The guy noted that in his home state (not sure, but possibly Missouri), they were threatened with loss of funds if they did not pass a seat belt law. In an unusual nod to personal choice and freedom, legislators in his state did the math. They figured that if they failed to pass a seat belt law, it would amount to a $5 penalty for every man, woman, and child, who were then residents of that state. They decided that personal choice and freedom were worth more than five dollars and told the Feds to go kick rocks. As it should be! Stuff like this reminds me of a saying my maternal grandfather used to quote a lot. Truer words were never spoken. "More laws, less justice." Marcus Tullius Cicero Quote
WRYZ926 Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago These types of laws are passed due to the lack of common sense among the general public. I have seen too many people staring at their phones, tablets, or laptops while driving down the road. The worst was a guy on his tablet and reading a newspaper while driving in St Louis morning rush hour traffic. And it is ID10T's like those people that came laws like this o be passed. The federal government threatening to take away funding goes back a long time. They did the same thing to get states to reduce the speed limit to 55 MPH. SteveShannon, PRadio, WRUU653 and 1 other 3 1 Quote
nokones Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, WRYZ926 said: So you are admitting to being an old curmudgeon? Oh hell no, just an old people WRYZ926 and amaff 2 Quote
PRadio Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 7 hours ago, WRYZ926 said: Here is an excerpt from the Missouri law. While they do not specifically mention GMRS, they do state that amateur radio and CB is exempt. One could argue that if CB and amateur radios are exempt then so is GMRS. Now I sure would not trie to program a radio while driving. Here is the link for the actual state statute: https://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=304.822 Quote I looked at Pennsylvania's bill, and see that the exemption for Amateur radio was removed, so it applies, as written, to all mobile radios. However, this part may actually be interpreted such that a mobile radio is allowable, provided you aren't switching channels and are simply talking using a hand held mic, pushing only one button. So it may be okay. I will take it as such. This wasn't in the earlier iteration of the bill. It has passed and has been signed by the governor. " Defines the use of an interactive mobile device as using at least one hand to hold, or supporting with another part of the body, an interactive mobile device, dialing or answering an interactive mobile device by pressing more than a single button, or reaching for an interactive mobile device that requires a driver to maneuver so that the driver is no longer in a seated driving position, restrained by a seat belt." Quote
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